This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library. の Meaning(s): Follows A, turning the sentence into a question (casual)., A's B (shows possession), The A one, A directly modifies B, B of A, B who/that is a(n) A, C which/whose A is B. C's A is B
Isn't there a way to mix んですか/なんですか with the informality of の? Could I do something like this: 本当にそんなに厚い本を一日で読んだなんの? To mean "You really read a book that thick in one day?" I am thinking ん だい is a little different but can't put my finger on why...
A user noted that this page lacked all the basic usages of the particle. The most basic form..N1のN2 ..where N1 adds information to N2 - not sure how to describe that succinctly. Would love ideas. As for others, I have cross-referenced all of this, but I would love to hear if it is clear enough.
1. N1 の N2 -N1 is a general noun, N2 is usually a name of someone/something that is the same as N1 example: 店員のけいこさん, 子供のけんたくん
2. N1のN1 - N2's N1 (shows possession)
3. Adjective+の - used to abbreviate after the noun has been mentioned. 赤い花 --> 赤いの (the red one) 頑丈な机 --> 頑丈なの (the sturdy one)
The big missing one is where it just..adds information. アメリカの大学、木の椅子、etc.. 新潟での祭り
valymer's usage notes are very good... another very simple one is simply "possessive" or " 's " - even when adding information, the second noun still is in some way belonging to the first...
Ok, I have added several new meanings. I have (under your username) also moved several chunks of valymer's explanations up into the main areas as usage notes, so you retain credit.
what about when an adjective is used after the の? For example 質のいい製品 or something like that... don't remember if that's somewhere else or not, but I'd feel that would go along with the last usage
Does it always follow the pattern of [N]の[Adj] [N], and can it always/usually be replaced (not in that sentence, but if it were standalone, and not a modifying clause of a noun?
it's usually in the context of a phrase that would usually take が but then the noun/adjective clause is followed by a noun, if that's what you're referring to...
What about the の that follows other particles? As in 友達からの手紙 --- a letter from my friend 東京までの切符 --- a ticket to Tokyo 母へのプレゼント --- a present for my mother Wouldn't that belong to this topic, too? Or is it in a different section?
Sorry to bother. I just got started reading through the grammar section, so I don't know if it appears somewhere else on the site.