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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
ことはない
1. A is not necessary; it's OK if A is not done.
      こと  ない   
No, there's no need to apologize.
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As per happypuppy's comment on iterinfinitas' sentence, shouldn't 「~はない」 also be included in this section? It has the same meaning as the uses outlined above.
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Yea - means the same thing. I don't think I have a grammar page up for that yet, so I'll add one when I get a chance. A lot of the grammar still (unfortunately) isn't sufficiently linked with similar/same expressions, but it'll happen! I need to make a tool to let users suggest links so the burden isn't completely on me.
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Couldn't はない just be added to this page?
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It wouldn't fit in that well with the way the grammar dictionary is organized on the server. I'll think about if there's a better way to handle it, but for now, the best is to have a separate page that links back to this.
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It's been added.
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aileen
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The second example sentence looks to me to have a completely different meaning than the other two and the explanation. Take a look:
すことはないので、ってさい。」
It's not something you can pass by hand, so please send it in a letter.

This example is defining what type of thing (こと) we're talking about, specifying that it's a thing that's unable to be passed by hand. We're restricting it, not saying it's okay to not do it.

So, if we're talking about "A is not necessary; it's OK if A is not done." or
はない things, this example belongs under a different heading, or perhaps over in the こと entry...

That said, it clicks well with the Japanese grammar in the (very shallow) depths of my brainpan. I understand the sentence perfectly well, even though it looks contrary to the other two examples and the English definition of the grammar point.
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Definitely shouldn't belong in here. Took it out, thanks!
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First model sentence's English needs a little tweaking.

"No, there's no need to apology" should be "...apologize."
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Fixed, thanks!
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Javona
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The first example sentence 「いいえ、ることはないよ。」 - I thought that る (あやまる)means to make a mistake or to err or to mislead, whereas る (あやまる) means to apologise. Can る (あやまる) also mean apologise or should it be the other kanji?
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Agreed, and fixed. It was bound to the incorrect vocabulary term when it was first matched up.
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Nicolas2
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In " も いない のに 、 に やる こと ない よ ", I don't understand noni. Shouldn't it be node?
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Is that a user sentence? If so, you can add a comment directly on it.
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Nicolas2
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Is that a user sentence? If so, you can add a comment directly on it.
It's an example sentence for this grammar item, I think it was even the quiz question I got.
I found it in the dictionary, and from there I could copy a clean version (copying from the quiz added the extra spaces):
ぱいもいないのに、にやることないよ
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Thanks, fixed!
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