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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
はともかく
1. Whether or not A, B; Putting A aside
B is considered more important than A in the context of the sentence.
あの            ともかく       はず        
Nevermind the wrapping paper, you should like the contents of the present.
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mireille
Level: 1
Noun + はともかく ・ はともかくとして
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 262
しました!ありがとうございます。
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night_in_girl
Level: 1
after NounB は or が。
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13 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 262
Do you see that as a requirement, or just a common usage?
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|マルコ|
Level: 110

I've encountered this today while playing Dragon Quest 6:
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さまがになれるようおりをしています。
はともかくはすでにかなりのおトシ。


My (poor xD) translation:
I'm praying for the King and Queen to get well soon.
Setting the Queen aside, the King has already a certain age.


- Given that, I would like to suggest the addition of "setting aside" as meaning for this grammar point

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1 year ago
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マイコー
Level: 262

I took that, and made some clarity adjustments to the meaning.

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stupidguy
Level: 182

I'm just leaving a note; I haven't studied this yet.

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In the Handbook, page 379, at the start of the entry for とにかく, ともかく is given as another form.

There are three constructions listed from pages 379-380:

とにかく

とにかくV

Nはとにかく(として) -- Likely a match to this page.

In the Intermediate Dictionary, pages 218-219, under the related expressions for なにしろ, there's a short discussion of とにかく. The tl;dr is that とにかく isn't a speaker-oriented expression and can be used for "highly hearer-oriented" use (so the same might be said for ともかく?).

I didn't find renshuu pages for なにしろ or とにかく.

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