掲示板 Forums - Kanji font issues

Was there a change to the default kanji font during the August upgrade? I've been having issues with certain kanji characters since yesterday. They no longer show in the same form I see them on other sites, like Jisho.org, 読売新聞, etc. Instead they have a stylized form. Fonts with "thread" and "pot cover" radicals seem to be the only ones affected, at least that I've seen so far. For example, this is what I see on Renshuu:

And this is what I see everywhere else:

I didn't even recognize the version in the top image when I first saw it. I thought the lower left was "water" and it took me a moment to figure out what was going on.

Yesterday, 糸 looked exactly like the left part of the top image. Today, it looks different. Not like it used to look, but close enough that it's easily recognizable. So something seems to be going on.

I don't know if this is an issue with the site or with my browser perhaps, or with something in the Japanese locale. About a month ago, the default Latin alphabet font changed on me to something so thin that I could hardly read it, but it was back to normal the next day, so I didn't report it.

I'm using Firefox in Linux (Fedora) desktop. I just checked in a Chrome-based browser, and it showed the standard font. Firefox on my Android phone also shows the standard font. Firefox on my desktop is still displaying the stylized font though.

I also just tried out several different Japanese-language sites that I didn't try earlier, and all of them them but two display the standard font. WWWJDIC and the NHK news site display the same stylized font as Renshuu. All other sites and my desktop IME show the standard font, so it's not a problem with the font on my computer. Firefox seems to be displaying two different Japanese fonts for some reason.

I'll try and replicate it, and let you know when I have more info!

I'm very familiar with it. I did a check and on both Renshuu and Jisho, the web inspector window itself displays 約 as in the top image, even though on the actual page Jisho shows it as the bottom image. Gmail also shows as the top image. I have a feeling my Firefox is showing the stylized version by default, but sites like Jisho and 読売新聞 are using font-families that override it.

Here are the font-families used:

Jisho: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Source Han Sans", "源ノ角ゴシック", "Hiragino Sans", "HiraKakuProN-W3", "Hiragino Kaku Gothic ProN W3", "Hiragino Kaku Gothic ProN", "ヒラギノ角ゴ ProN W3", "Noto Sans", "Noto Sans CJK JP", "メイリオ", Meiryo, "游ゴシック", YuGothic, "ＭＳ Ｐゴシック", "MS PGothic", "ＭＳ ゴシック", "MS Gothic", sans-serif;

Renshuu: "ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro","メイリオ",Meiryo,Osaka,'Open Sans','Helvetica','Neue',"ＭＳ Ｐゴシック","MS PGothic","Takao Pゴシック","TakaoPGothic","IPA Pゴシック","IPAPGothic",sans-serif;

I upgrade Firefox to 79.05 the other day, and that could be what changed my font. 80 is out and should be available soon for Fedora, so another upgrade can happen in a day or two.

I'm sure I can get it fixed, don't worry! The only thing I can think of that might have changed is that I changed the html tag that shows the site's langauge as jp to en. I did this because I found out that some users were having their browsers automatically convert Japanese when they were on a site marked as Japanese, so their quizzes would have the definition (English), then converted the hiragana answers to English (haha).

So it is possible that because of that, the browser is saying "hey,for this language, use this font."

Can you try this for me?

https://stackoverflow.com/ques...

This shows how to actually show the rendered font being used, not just the font-family list. I'd like to see what it says in Chrome and Firefox for you.

Alright, please give me a few days - I'm going to spin up a copy of Fedora in VirtualBox and see if I can't replicate the issue.

Yes, it's back to how it used to be in Firefox. I also checked in Chrome, and it now is also displaying Noto Sans instead of Droid Sans. Thanks!