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What are the transative usages of 勤める?
Does the めtransitiveまintransitive rule apply here to? Is 勤まる coming from 勤める (though the definition I found had no relation to 勤めるwork as/for)
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here...
All of 勤める's usages (to work for, to act as, etc.) are transitive. For example:
彼は銀行に勤めている。 = He works at the bank.
彼女は主役を勤める。 = She plays the leading part.
若い頃は王に勤めた。 = I served the king in my youth.
With transitive usage, usually there is a target/object which we use with を or に。It is the same with this case, you can search the site's dictionary for sentences with 勤める.
Looking at the kanji for 勤, you'll find the reading of transitive (勤める、つとめる) and intransitive (勤まる、つとまる).
I've noticed a pattern for some groups of the words. Looking at the A I U E O grouping. When a word has forms in both A-group あ-group and E-group え-group, in the case of 勤める and 勤まる, with め(me) and ま(ma) , usually the A-version is intransitive-self, and the E-version is transitive-targeted.
Hope that helps.
Actually, I'm mainly asking about the usages of 勤まる, if that word exists *following the E-A pattern
This list: http://nihongo.monash.edu/ti_l...
claims that they are "verbs where the transitive/intransitive pair are related by an eru-aru pattern":
TRANSITIVE | INTRANSITIVE |
勤める [つとめる] (v1) (1) to serve; to fill a post; to serve under; to work (for); (2) to exert oneself; to endeavor; to endeavour; to be diligent; (3) to play (the part of) | 勤まる [つとまる] (v5r) to be fit for; to be equal to; to function properly |
This list: http://nihongo.monash.edu/ti_l...
claims that they are "verbs where the transitive/intransitive pair are related by an eru-aru pattern":
TRANSITIVE | INTRANSITIVE |
勤める [つとめる] (v1) (1) to serve; to fill a post; to serve under; to work (for); (2) to exert oneself; to endeavor; to endeavour; to be diligent; (3) to play (the part of) | 勤まる [つとまる] (v5r) to be fit for; to be equal to; to function properly |
Thanks for the link, @Anonymous123, seems like the link also links to an updated page https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/ji...
That updated page warns of an exception:
Note also that azukaru and azukeru are both transitive verbs. This often comes up in tests on trick questions.
Small little exceptions in tricky tests, haha.