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Shows an especially strong conviction A of the speaker
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                 もの   
It's normally too much to finish a book in one day.
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   ため      えに   こと  あい という もの ではない    
Isn't it love to say that you'll go in the middle of rain to meet your girlfriend?
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なんでも               という    
It's truly a close friend to be able to talk with each other about anything.

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Aな-adjective
 
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Aい-adjective
 
ANoun
 
 
いうもの
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User notes
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in conversation, もの can become もん.
「~というもんだ。」
12 years ago
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This grammar point can't be used in the past tense or negative forms.
12 years ago
avatar fareastfurfaro (Grammar mod.) - Level 1

Discussion about this grammar
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Grammar mod. Level: 1, : 503
The definition of this one is a bit hard to understand. I'd just say it shows an especially strong conviction of the speaker.

It also looks to me that verbs and i-adjectives in dictionary form and nouns can all be used here.
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12 years ago (Edited 12 years ago.)
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Level: 122, : 6,897
Yea, your definition is much clearer. There is always the occasional grammar point where a good meaning just didn't form in my head, so it's appreciated!
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12 years ago
Level: 1, : 1

Hi,


I read in fareastfurfaro's Usages notes that "past tense or negative forms" cannot be used for this grammar point.

Does it refer to A part or だ part ?


In case of A part :

- what about user's sample : はそんなにすぎてべられないというものだよ!


In case of だ part :

- what about this page's example : 「かのじょあうためあらしさいちゅうえきむにいくことこそあいというものではない

- This remark is here to prevent from confusing with というものではない grammar point ?

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7 years ago (Edited 7 years ago.)
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Level: 122, : 6,897

It is referring to the A part - the page example given here is simply a negation of the entire phrase, so I wouldn't think of it as "part" of the grammar expression.

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7 years ago



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