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Extremely A; Very A; A beyond description
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あの       ひどい        
That person's way of talking is extremely cruel.
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To lose a game to you is frustrating beyond belief.

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いったらない
Basic Examples:
といったらない (mad beyond belief)

Aい-adjective
いったらない
Basic Examples:
しいといったらない (very easy)

Aな-adjective
いったらない
Basic Examples:
退といったらない (extremely boring)

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いったらありはしない
Aい-adjective
いったらありはしない
Aな-adjective
いったらありはしない
ANoun
いったらない
といったらない vs. といったらありはしない
While the construction of the two patterns are the same, といったらない can come after both positive and negative words, while といったらありはしない can only follow negative patterns.
Abbreviations
In casual speech, といったらない can be abbreviated to ったらない, and といったらありはしない can be shortened to といったらありゃしない.
Notes
Verbs and adjectives are sometimes followed by こと before といったらない.
Related Expressions
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Josefutaro
Level: 74
(1 year ago)

といったらない】Attached to nouns or i-adjectives to emphasize an extreme degree of something. Means, "so.. that it can't be expressed in words, or, "there is nothing else as ..as." In spoken language, the form ...ったらない may also be used. Although といったらありはしない conveys the same meaning as といったらない, the former is used only when expressing a negative evaluation of something (dissatisfaction, criticism, etc.). 「」(2015) pp. 326-327. [my bolds for emphasis]

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Shakey_Jake33
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My grammar book bundles といったらない, といったらありはしない, といったらありゃしない and ったらない together, with the nuance that the former can be used for both positive and negative evaluations, whereas the latter three can only be used for negative.
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マイコー
Level: 262
Interesting. I only have one source in front of me - and it includes the 1st and 4th, but says their usage is the same (no positive/negative differences), just that the latter is the casual form of the former. Will keep looking into it!
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マイコー
Level: 262
Ok, got it: いったらない/ったらない = positive or negative, polite and casual pair いったらありはしない/りゃしない = negative only, polite and casual pair
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yappa
Level: 1

According to the Nihongo Sou Matome Book (page 118), this grammar can also be used with Noun

しさといったらない


I can also find some examples using noun on the internet

そのおかしさといったら

らしをめたときのといったらありはしない

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マイコー
Level: 262

Does it say noun, or does it say noun form of the adjective? I'm not sure if it would work with any noun, especially ones that don't emphasize a 'quality' like the examples you gave.

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yappa
Level: 1

I found this grammar in another book, too. (here)

It seems likes it works with any noun

Example 1 of the 1st grammar: されたったらなかった。よほどかったのだろう。

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マイコー
Level: 262

*laughs* the poor guy in that example sentence. I've seen my students with that face before.


The usage pattern has been added to the page!

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