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トリ🌺
Level: 289

Okay, so I've recently realized that even though my vocabulary is quite large, my grammar is lacking to say the least... And one of the things I suck at are Japanese particles...

I've looked up both に and で both both online and in Renshuu's vocabulary dictionary and I still have no idea how to really differentiate these two...

Usually I get them right in Renshuu's quizzes, since the the correct answer just "feels right".

Couls you please help me with those two and maybe give some examples?

Thank you in advance!


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カメリア(椿)
Level: 1128

Generally explaining, に is typically used when a person is going somewhere (i.e. としょうかんにく - Going TO the library). で is used when someone is doing something at a place (きっさてんでコーヒーをむ - Drinking coffee AT the cafe).

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gdartfow
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When preceded by a location, both で and に are used to mean 'at'/'in'. で is used when an action takes place there, while に is used when just describing a presence there. For example:

レストランいます = I'm at a restaurant

レストランべています = I'm eating at a restaurant

As カメリア mentions, に can also mean 'to', when used with a verb of motion (く, る, る, etc.), like:

レストランっています = I'm going to a restaurant


Aside from that similarity, both have many other distinct uses, such as indicating a reason, an indirect object, a means, a time period, linking nouns/adjectives, etc.

You might want to look at their respective grammar entries in the library for more details and example sentences:

https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/112

https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/113

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マイコー
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Also the lessons in Resources > Japanese Basics :)

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Level: 289

Also the lessons in Resources > Japanese Basics :)

When preceded by a location, both で and に are used to mean 'at'/'in'. で is used when an action takes place there, while に is used when just describing a presence there. For example:

レストランいます = I'm at a restaurant

レストランべています = I'm eating at a restaurant

As カメリア mentions, に can also mean 'to', when used with a verb of motion (く, る, る, etc.), like:

レストランっています = I'm going to a restaurant

Aside from that similarity, both have many other distinct uses, such as indicating a reason, an indirect object, a means, a time period, linking nouns/adjectives, etc.

You might want to look at their respective grammar entries in the library for more details and example sentences:

https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/112

https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/113


Wow, I didn't know you can add sentences to the dictionary...(^o^)丿I'll be there whenever I'm struggling... I hadn't really noticed grammar pages before... I only used renshuus dictionary! What an awesome learning resource! Thank you for breaking it down!☺️

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Level: 289

Generally explaining, に is typically used when a person is going somewhere (i.e. としょうかんにく - Going TO the library). で is used when someone is doing something at a place (きっさてんでコーヒーをむ - Drinking coffee AT the cafe).

Thank you for the quick breakdown! It's very helpful! (≧∇≦)b

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