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So I just joined Renshuu and am looking at the various types of quizzes and masteries there are, and also what happens for terms I partially know.
I'm wondering how discretely these are tracked in terms of mastery. Could I set up a schedule to just focus on learning meaning first, and then come back and revisit things like radicals and readings way down the road? Could I even break it down as far as question type?
For example, I have an N5 Kanji schedule I added. Within the schedule I see options like:
Currently Studying Onyomi Readings, Kanji meaning
And then under those sections there's question types like
Kanji -> Onyomi
Kanji -> Kunyomi
Kanji Crosses
Kanji -> Definition
Definition -> Type in the Kanji
etc....
If I turn off the Readings entirely, can I come back in a year and learn them by turning them on for the schedule or another schedule that contains those kanji?
What about the question type? For example if I only do Kanji -> Definition now will I be able to come back and do Definition -> Type in the Kanji down the road? Or once I reach a certain mastery in something like "Kanji Meaning" that's it?
Next question is what happens if I say I know a kanji "a bit"? Does it evenly apply mastery everywhere? I've been studying elsewhere but I basically just know the Kanji -> Meaning in most cases. I don't want to got through the whole learn/study cycle for every kanji I already know, but also don't want to overstate my mastery and miss out on practice I'll eventually want to do.
So if you got to the kanji dictionary under each kanji it will have your mastery % there, and if you click on Show all levels it show the break down which are based on vectors. Like below.
That info is store on the kanji itself (it is independent of the schedules).
So, it knows the info for each vector, but I don't believe the question types used within the vector is tracked anywhere. That being said, you can change the question type whenever you want on a schedule.
So, for this kanji, I've studied definitions, onyomi, and kunyomi.
If wanted to study Stroke counts, I could:
Turn on the stroke count vector on that schedule, or
Create a separate schedule for kanji, only focusing on Stroke counts
Thanks for that! It's interesting to see it broken out like that. I guess I just wasn't sure if doing something like a Meaning quiz could give me Onyomi master for example, or if it's only when I do a quiz with Readings in the schedule that it would it go up.
I basically want to just learn meanings now but I know down the road I'll want to come back for more academic studying like the actual readings and radical names and all that, but not for a while. I just wanted to see if it would still be available to me later to sort of approach the kanji from a new lens in that way.
Renshuu is built around making it as easy as possible to study however benefits you most, so you are never "locked in" to one form of study or set of materials; you can and should experiment as much as you want with customizing how you want to learn, and change it as suits you as you go. You can change your schedule vectors and question types at any time, without affecting your study progress. All of your mastery is per-vector and saved to the term itself, so nothing is lost if you delete your schedules or replace them or try different vectors later.
Selecting one of the "I know this" options on the term intro screen sets the mastery for all vectors to a certain level (IIRC 2, 6, or 9). You will still be quizzed on that term as usual, there will just be a longer interval before you start seeing questions about it. If you only want to skip ahead your mastery in only one vector (e.g. kanji meaning), you can do that manually from the term list or through the Japanese Index in the menu (or the other way around, you can say "I know this" and use the Japanese Index to reduce the mastery on the vectors you don't want affected).
I see, that sounds like what I want.
I've been using JPDB up until now so I have about ~1000 vocab and maybe ~700 kanji learned for meaning. I sort of want to import that knowledge over here, but without overestimating it. Being able to use the index to just tweak single vectors is probably what I need to do. kana -> meaning for words and kanji -> definition would get me there I think.
Do you know what happens in terms of review timings if I do it bulk? If I set 1000 words to a new mastery level all at once, am I going to get a huge 1000 word review cliff in a few days/weeks?
There is a bit of randomization built in so it won't be all at once. The further ahead (higher mastery level), the more of a time range the randomizer is able to play with.