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Shiro[
Level: 158

Why is きれい a -な adjective instead of an -い adjective? It ends with い.

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Anonymous123
Level: 1474

The difference becomes clear if you write it with kanji.

If I write ふるい (old) with kanji it is

is ふる and we have an い that comes after the kanji. That's what い adjectives look like i.e. some kanji followed by hiragana ending in い

If I write きれい with kanji it is .

is き and is れい. We don't have anything after the kanji. So it doesn't look like an い adjective.

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gdartfow
Level: 1988

Also, be especially careful with い (きらい).

It ends in い, even when written with kanji, but it is actually a na-adjective.

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gdartfow
Level: 1988

Re-reading my post, I never addressed the original concern: Why is い a na-adjective?


Originally, the verb う was nominalized using the conjunctive form to create the noun い = hatred. Over time it came to be used as an adjective and, stemming from a noun, was treated as a na-adjective (which conjugate like nouns anyway).


い is by no means the only such adjective, but it is by far the most common.

A few other examples:

(originates from う) = out-of-place remark

(originates from う) = ill-matched couple

(originates from う) = glutton

(originates from ふ) = happy ending


It might be easier to just memorize the handful of "exceptions" when you come across them, rather than think through their etymology, but there is some historical reasoning behind it all.

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Nice explanation. This makes me wonder if it is possible to make a general rule that nominalized う-verbs become な-adjectives when used to modify a noun. Though I expect there would be exceptions.

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