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ヤロウ
Level: 163

I've read the definition of them multiple times and I just don't feel like I'm wrapping my head around them.

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Let’s take an example:

  • Maggie eats. (Intransitive)
  • Maggie eats a pizza. (Transitive)

As you can see, a transitive verb takes an object (the pizza). An intransitive verb doesn’t. Where things get confusing is when the same verb (eats) can be used both ways.

Even more confusing, sometimes two different verbs are used (see below for an English example), and sometimes different languages take opposite approaches to the same situation.

Edit: Here’s an example of a transitive/intransitive pair from a technical writing handbook used at MIT.

raise/rise

Raise always requires an object (raise taxes), whereas rise never has an object (heat rises). Rise is an irregular verb, but raise is regular.

The government may raise the level of permissible exposure to this chemical.

The permissible exposure rate for the workers in this facility rises by 15% this year.



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Hmm, I think this is hard to translate properly in english.

I'll just give some tips that covers partially for recognition, mostly from the late Dolly-sensei.

Japanese verbs can be divided into two:
1. to be (to exist) in ある/いる verbs mostly ending in "ru" and う-sound ending, except す
2. to do (to action) する verbs mostly ending in "su"

The aru/iru verbs of "to be" are intransitive as it refers back to the speaker/subject using が (or implied, mostly with only は) without needing a target object. (Common exception: You'll find confusion in translation of japanese "like" き because literal japanese is not the english "I like apples" but "apples are pleasant")
e.g.

* る (でる) deru - to exit or come out.

Example sentence: れっしゃでる The train comes (out) at 6 o'clock.


* る (のる) noru - to board/ride (a bike/car) (common exception: uses target referencing に but refers to the subject doing the action).

Example sentence: こうのる I board a plane.

* がる (あがる) - self/subject to rise, (uses the あ-sound column, が)

Example sentence:

ぎ ょ っ と して とび あが る
I spring up with a start.

The suru verbs are transitive as they need a target, generally targetted with wo を , some exceptions with ni に.
e.g.

* す (だす) dasu - to take out something (the something is the targetを)

Example sentence:

かれすぐに てを だす
He quickly take out his hand.

* せる (のせる) noseru - to put an object, targetted using を, into riding/boarding something, targetted using に. (common exception)

Example sentence:
あかち ゃ ん ベ ビ ー シ ー ト のせ る

I'll put the baby in the baby seat.

* げる (げる) ageru - to raise object (uses the え-sound column, げ)

Example sentence:

あたまあげる
Raise your head.


Here's a list from the Monash University, you can look at it and see the general rules above.

Then, there are the rest of the transitive/intransitive pairs that are not so obvious. Pairs of う-sound ending verbs and えう-sound ending verbs which need memorization.

Check renshuu's sentence dictionary for examples.

Hope this helps!

Edit: Didn't understand what the acronym "ELI5" meant "Explain like I am a 5-year old". Now that I do, this answer is not fit for basics, but for the next level in the japanese context. Added specific japanese-english sentence to supplement.

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Anonymous123
Level: 1425

The Cliff notes ELI5 version (written by a non-linguist):

-If I perform an action on something else, that's transitive. The action makes a *transition* from me to the object I'm acting upon. I mark the object with を

-If I perform an action on my own without involving an object, that's intransitive (Because there's no transition. I'm the only one involved in the action)

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Maximilian1st
Level: 13

Thank you for the non-linguist one, totally makes sense. To me at least.

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ヤロウ
Level: 163

Thank you very much all, this helped me a lot!

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