Vocabulary dictionary

Kanji dictionary

Grammar dictionary

Sentence lookup

test
 

Forums - What does な mean?

Top > 日本語を勉強しましょう / Let's study Japanese! > Anything About Japanese



avatar

In unit 4 of Japanese on Duolingo, they have lessons where you learn to use the な-adjective. But this has confused me since Duo doesn't explain WHY it's used or the proper usage (like when to use it or not). I've tried looking on here for answers but I couldn't find any. And just for example, here's one of the sentences they teach.

'これはじんじゅですか'

If the な/なあ was being used at the end of a sentence I would get it. It's basically ですね shortened. Is using it this way just being obnoxious or wrong? I'd appreciate any help!


1
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar
.Milo
Level: 309

Hello I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for, but I'll give explaining it a try and if this isn't what you're looking for, then you can just ignore this all :)

Some of the things I'll be talking about can be found under menu> Resources> Japanese Basics> Adjective basics. I'm not very good at explanations, so I really recommend checking it out. (The lesson doesn't take very long and explains it much better than I do)

To begin with the basics -- there are 2 kinds of adjectives:

Adjectives that end with -い (ex. い, akai, red)

And adjectives that end with -な (ex. な, yuumei na, famous) This is the kind of adjective your question is about, but let's look at both kinds to compare them:

A. When placed in the following structure: "the dog is red" and "the daughter is famous", い-adjectives will keep their last い, meanwhile な-adjectives will drop the な. So these examples will become:

いです and です

B. Now there's the structure you showed in your example sentence, which are built like "the red dog" and "the famous daughter". Here, both the い-adjectives and な-adjectives will keep their final い and な. See the following examples:

and

Both kinds of adjectives are translated the same way, as you can see. Each adjective is either a い-adjective or a な-adjective, so you simply have to learn them and know which is which. I don't know whether a pattern exists to determine what kind of adjective you're dealing with, except for when they're used in a sentence (-い, -な, or ending on nothing, like structure A with な as you can see in the given example).

About the part with な/なあ being used at the end of a sentence as a kind of expression similar to ですね, I'm not really sure. I believe it can be used for both kinds since it's an expression, not the same な I've been talking about. But then again, I'm not completely sure about that.

I'm only an amateur Japanese learner, so I hope it was understandable/helpful. I do want to say that Duolingo lacks at the explanation-part in languages (speaking from experience), so I really recommend checking out the other lessons in the Resources> Japanese Basics on Renshuu!

9
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar

Ah! Thank you very much! That makes sense! I will be sure to check it out. I just wasn't sure.

2
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar

@.Milo you are too good at explanations.

@パイナップル The “meaning” of な is to convert a noun into an adjective. It is interesting to contrast な with の in this respect.

6
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar

Okay, thank you @ポールおじちゃん!

1
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar
Karlla
Level: 892

Just a bit of trivia...

i-adjectives are called (けいようし) in jp which literally translates to "description word" or "modification word".

na-adjectives are called (けいようどうし). In the dictionary it's translated as "adjectival noun" but the literal sense of the word is "description/modification verb". Now why is that?
です is a relatively new invention. In the middle ages the verb なり was used instead. So in order to create an adjective from a noun they would add なり to it. なり, however, fell out of fashion and only remains to this day in its shortened form な as part of na-adjectives. You can still see its origin as a verb in the fact that it is inflected, as in なりたい = "I want to become famous" where the な has changed into に.

7
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar
アムシャル
Level: 110

@Karlla That's a neat piece of trivia, thanks for sharing

It's always interesting to know the origins of how words in Japanese came to be.

0
1 year ago
Report Content
avatar

Thank you for sharing @Karlla! I'm a big language nerd so that's really neat!

0
1 year ago
Report Content
Getting the posts




Top > 日本語を勉強しましょう / Let's study Japanese! > Anything About Japanese


Loading the list
Lv.

Sorry, there was an error on renshuu! If it's OK, please describe what you were doing. This will help us fix the issue.

Characters to show:





Use your mouse or finger to write characters in the box.
■ Katakana ■ Hiragana