掲示板 Forums - koto vs goto

There are several sentences in renshuu’s database that include the phrase 怒る事, but nearly all of them have the pronunciation おこること. A few have いかること, but only this one has いかるごと. There is also a second version of this same sentence with audio pronounced おこること.

That suggests いかるごと is an error, at least in this sentence. I would avoid it until more evidence appears.

My best guess is that it's a nominalizing suffix.

There are only a handful of example sentences for 事/ごと that come with audio, but they are all read こと, so I am skeptical. I’ll probably have to ask someone.

In English, it's also counted as a noun. In some Japanese discussion circles, people also acknowledge it's also a noun, despite most dictionaries using it as a verb. I don't know if that is worth the consideration.

Also, I have seen ごと use with that word, such as here: https://www.naturalclean.co.jp...

And here: https://yomogido.com/archives/...

In this blog entry, there's a historical document from a high school song which uses ごと: https://prangecollection.wordp...

You'd get the drift.

Also, I don't know if this is also worth noting given these examples, but I do know that there's sometines favor for hiragana use, rather than the kanji for both readings of こと and ごと. Perhaps that's what makes these sentences all the more clear to read.

All in all, I do find this fascinating, and would love to be educated more about the basis behind this. From what I'm seeing so far, I don't really see these examples where ごと isn't used. It would hint to me that if you'd say it can't be used for verbs, it's probably not one. I couldn't mark that as wrong unless it is actually misused here.

*Bonus: There's a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote,, "For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind." Translations in Japanese tend to use ごと in hiragana. I'm sure there is a reason for this.

Perhaps. Maybe you're right. I really can't say. I just know that in the case for 事, its written in hiragana and I'm seeing either こと and ごと written after words like 怒る, so I would think that's 事. Google Translate doesn't discern any difference to either kanji and doesn't change the translation with respect to that. I'd suspect that would have to do with the way it autocorrected to こと for both words.

IDK anymore.

All the ごと that should be こと as getting fixed now. Looks like nothing more than incorrect dictionary linking.

I get what you mean now. I can see the mistake.

I get it already now. It was just how I was focused on one hand that the root word for 怒る was a noun, that I didn't realize that it was more about how it was an intransitive verb form. I just treated it completely differently than what it was and my wires get crossed.