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What would everybody consider to be the #1 (or top 3) best-made anime they've ever watched fully? [Best in terms of the quality of the characters, worldbuilding, plot, theme, audio, and visuals; seperate from just 'my favorite'.]

My current top 3 is a 3-way tie between Mairimashita Iruma-kun, Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken, and Overlord. (I've seen over 100 anime fully, but only given proper ratings to about 20 so far.){I also have another 750 anime unwatched on my pending list, lol.}

If you count movies, the best quality is always Ghibli. Even the older ones are animated beautifully. In terms of world building, Ghibli is second to none. The plot and characters are also consistently well done.

I do not understand what you are trying to say here. I gave the evaluation criteria for what I was asking about. A chill slice of life anime about a cafe can very much be conpared to a massive interstellar action adventure anime, you need simply evaluate each internally. Every story must have characters, worldbuilding, plot, and theme, along with audio and visuals, depending on the medium. Two totally different types of stories can both be evaluated in their quality, then have that quality contrasted.

Mmm, I disagree. There are way too many things to take into account. You can do a show very well and completely mess up certain parts. Take Cowboy Bebop, for instance. The plot was really lame, yet the show was a masterpiece, it didn't need a plot to be good (something very rare for shows and anything else). Tbh deciding what a best show is a huge (and virtually impossible) feat, there isn't really one, the genre doesn't really matter, but if you think about it, some games are the best for their amazing plot, but Minecraft has 0 plot and is one of the best games ever. See? Completely different

Sorry I'm probably thinking way too hard about this. I tend to take these things far too seriously

You're fine. It's less that you're taking it too seriously and moreso that you're just a bit mixed up one some things, which makes it seem impossible. For example: Minecraft actually does have a plot, it is merely determined moment-by-moment, with the player(s) often being main character; many 'no plot' things actually have a plot, since plot is just the events experienced by the characters; if there are characters doing/experiencing things, than there is your plot. Cowboy Bebop, too, very much has a plot. Part of the mixup seems to be viewing 'quality' as an absolute truth, which while very much possible, is not what I was talking about. Quality is evaluated internally, not externally, meaning that we aren't trying to say 'Cowboy Bebop has a worse plot than Tensei Slime', rather we are trying to evaluate each thing in a scientific 'vacuum' in which we examine all the parts of the story based on their ability to meet certain 'natural' standards. To give a very short version of an example I use often... Mushoku Tensei; the first 3 episodes are very very well-written, with detailed natural worldbuilding, realistic distinct characters, a simple yet strong plot, some fairly deep themes, fitting and well-produced audio, and clean sharp visuals. Those first 3 episodes, as a result of how highly they achieve the standards, are objectively good quality. However, episode 4 begins the horrible writing that persists from then onward, beginning with Paul, in total contradiction of everything established about his character in the 3 episodes prior, deciding to beat up his son, knock him out, and effectively sell him off to be an indentured servant of the very people Paul had moved to the countryside to escape having to suffer dealing with. This undermining, with absolutely nothing to support it, objectively decreases the quality of everything S1E4 and onward. As you can see, the evaluation of quality is almost entirely based on the principle of internal consistency, which is just a storytelling version of the Law Of Conservation Of Mass and Law Of Conservation Of Energy; things cannot simply be 'teleported' in and out of the story without explanation.

Hope that breakdown helps. (I'm currently writing a full novel/textbook designed to teach storytelling.)

Didnt know that existed, thought you were joking at first, but honestly, simple concepts are often easier to make perfect (ex: PacMan, Tetris, etc.) The capybara do certainly look cute.

I meant to post this yesterday, after I said that other thing, and then I got carried away and ended up having to finish it today

Anyway, the question was about anime we've watched in their entirety, and I've only seen 5, so that probably narrows it down enough for me. In no particular order:

Naruto: Amazing plot for some parts, terrible in others (but for a show that long it's inevitable and you have to judge the plot in parts really). Terribly incontinuitous (the timeline is more or less non-existent). Good characters. Tbh, idk if the world building is really... special? It's not like extremely original or very consistent, idk. It's ok though. I'm just judging it bc it's my favorite show. I'm not going to go into the overall theme and stuff because that would get too phylosophycal and stuff. The soundtracks had two different composers for Naruto and Naruto Shippuden, the first one had good music, not exceptional but it fit the show well, the second was written by a brilliant composer who's highly skilled and was an amazing score. The animation isn't the best for either. The first one had a better art style for sure. Shippuden also tried to implement weird CGI special effects early on and they butchered it almost every time, there were maybe like two scenes toward the end of the show where it looked ok.

One Piece: The plot is special, at it's core, the overarching plot is very simple yet there's so much room for complexity. Personally I think Eiichiro Oda is a genius for coming up with it, unlike Naruto, the plot is kind of random because for the most part each arc is separate yet important stuff is always happening whether completely on the side or immediately. Which leaves less room for incontinuities and detrimental mistakes. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'm very impressed by how long the show has gone on and yet is still so good and has so much left. As far as characters I really like the great variety of protagonists and antagonists, there are really good characters, really bad characters, characters that are somewhere in between, characters that we're not really sure if they're bad or good, characters that are enemies but they're basically good guys, etc. The world building is very vast and goes everywhere, there's originality but also a lot of stuff was borrowed from other stuff. Also not going into the theme here.The soundtrack is really good, I like how orchestral a lot of it is, much of the score sounds reminiscent of older movie scores. Since OP has run for so long, the animation has changes with the times. I don't think it was ever really bad for the time period, except maybe in the very beginning. More recently it's had really amazing animation, at least for a constantly running show. They did a way better job implementing special effects, they actually look ok and not jarringly out of place. Also I like how they draw the foreground vs background.

Attack on Titan: Very brilliant plot as far as overarching timeline and stuff, it's clear that Hajime Isayama had the whole thing written pretty much from the beginning, so he must be pretty smart since the plot is complex. (Plz nobody start an argument over this...) but, the last season started to go kind of downhill in a way, it wasn't actually worse, it just... changed and it kind of ruined part of the feel of the show in a hard to explain way. The very end was kind of awful. It wasn't bad, like it wasn't dumb, but it didn't really feel like it was a good ending for the show, I think it's one of those shows that was doomed for a weird ending in the first place because it couldn't actually go anywhere. On top of the already disputed last season it was just terrible. The theme started out ok, and then it really became awful. Has an epic soundtrack, for the most part. Good animation as far as I remember.

Cowboy Bebop: I already said this, but the main plot is not that good. But it never needed one. For only 26 episodes, the show went through a lot of different genres. Each episode was different. Basically, everything except the plot was good. The setting, the music, the genre(s)... The animation wasn't bad for the time period I don't think, at least compared to shows from the mid 90's it seemed a bit better but I'm not sure if the animation was better or if it's just the difference in the time when it was made. The soundtrack had a lot of good music, there were a lot of different kinds.

Assassination Classroom: The main plot was kind of cheesy. There was kind of a dual plot though? Idk. The characters were really good, I think we got to know them very well. There were sort of like multiple different bad guys but with totally different roles. It was kind of cool. The score was pretty good, it fit the show well. I don't remember the animation being really bad or good.

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