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lamerobot44
Level: 65
My wife and I have decided that we are going to move to Japan. She is still a Japanese national, so we would have no problem getting there, but we've decided it would be better if I could find a job before we move, since I know I'll have a much more difficult time then she will.
So, I've been doing some research, and I think my best be is to start as an ALT. My Japanese isn't strong enough for another field yet (studying for N3), and I'm not a genius/master-of-a-trade. So I thought this would be a good way to get there, get some work experience, and improve my language skill.
Of course, I'm already looking at JET, but I know a lot of others do too, and I know that a lot of people don't make it in. So, I've been looking at some other companies, and I've applied for two. "Border Link" and "The ECC Group." Does anyone know anything about these companies? (Work experience? Word of mouth? Reputation?) Or, does anyone know of other companies they would recommend to apply for?
As always, thanks again in advance for your advice!
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mysticfive
Level: 1963
Unfortunately I haven't heard of either 'Border Link' or 'The ECC Group,' but I can see if I can find anyone who has if you like!
As a JET participant though, I'll say if you want to apply for JET it is by far and away the best program to work for as an ALT in terms of pay/benefits/etc. Most of the non-JET ALTs I know are jealous of us! That being said there are a few downsides to JET: number one being the application process (which takes the better part of a year - the application is usually due the end of November/beginning of December and they absolutely will not accept an application even a day late!), and the selectivity of the program. The other problem (well, I feel it a problem now!) is the time limit. The JET Programme has a limit of 3 years, which can be extended for "exceptional JETs" to 5 years. I'm in my 5th year now and trying to make myself accept the fact that I have to leave here in August. But if you're applying, best of luck and let me know if there's anything with which I can help!
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lamerobot44
Level: 65
Yeah, I would definitely list JET as my top choice for ALT programs. The two reasons I'm searching for alternatives are that I'm worried about being accepted, and the length of the process. There is a chance that I may be out of a job much sooner than the application time frame, and I'm trying to limit that "downtime" as much as possible :p Of course, it's always been my wife and I's intention to move to Japan, so this has become a great opportunity for us. I really appreciate the input!!
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
I've been with Interac for the 4 years since I've been in Japan. 2.5 was in the countryside in Ibaraki and the last 1.5 years have been in Tokyo. As someone who has moved up in ranks and now works in the office quite a bit and has seen the inside of the company I can say there are a lot of good things going on. The pay is not great -you will probably never get up to the JET salary- but you also get more time off and more freedom. If you are trying to go straight to a big city it may be difficult as Tokyo at least almost never hires from abroad, but there are tons of positions available around the country and they are only increasing every contract season. As a ALT company, I'd say it's easily the best from all the stories I've heard from other people, including people who had have experiences in other places and then moved to Interac. It's at least worth checking out. The office staff is good and really actually do care about their teachers in the company. Many will go way out of their way to help those that put in the effort at work. If I didn't think so, I would have left ages ago.
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I'm not familiar with ALT programs aside from JET (which if you can get it, I recommend as it's run by the government, so it's pretty solid).

If you're looking into English conversation schools, the top 5 are Aeon, ECC, Berlitz, GEOS, and Nova.
The latter 2 went bankrupt and are now both owned by the same company, G.Communication (who I think is now called Jibun Mirai Kyoiku?). There's also another famous company that I've been seeing a lot about called GABA, which I believe only works with private lessons. Don't know anything about them.

As for salary, Aeon's the highest, and also has the best reputation. Although, their working conditions are fairly strict, and you should be prepared for a lot of structure. ECC, on the other hand, boasts 7 weeks of holidays (as far as I remember), and the salary is comparable to Aeon (albeit a little lower). They're also a bit more laid back than Aeon from what I've heard.

Nova is by far probably the easiest company to work for if you're looking to get started. They focus mostly on conversation, and while knowing grammar is obviously an asset, they're more worried about whether you're a native speaker or not.
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Zilimidori
Level: 19
I don't have any direct experience with teaching ESL but a friend of a friend said that ECC is a good place to work.
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Satchmobgw
Level: 1
A few friends of mine have worked for ECC and haven't had anything bad to say. As far as my knowledge is concerned, I've been with Interac for 3 years now and haven't had a problem with them.
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
[quote author=Satchmobgw link=topic=1416.msg8744#msg8744 date=1326852735]
A few friends of mine have worked for ECC and haven't had anything bad to say. As far as my knowledge is concerned, I've been with Interac for 3 years now and haven't had a problem with them.
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Where are you located with Interac?
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lamerobot44
Level: 65
Hey everyone,

Sorry for the delay in my reply! I've been quite busy in the past month or so. I've decided to go with ALTIA CENTRAL. They are a great company, have a decent wage, and great benefits. I'm hoping to get my placement in the next week or two, so hopefully I'll see some of you soon! :)
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Geckomayhem
Level: 1
I was on JET for three years. My particular BoE kicked people out after two, but I got a special exception because they didn't inform me about the two-year deal. No idea how people like Mystic get five. :p As for Interac, glad to hear a couple of you have good experiences. I was soured a bit from my "experience" with them. As JET was coming to a close, I had my hopes up about replacing the high school ALT in my town, as he was leaving that summer. I applied for Interac, thought I did everything right, but was outright rejected. No feedback, no reason as to why, and I was left kind of wondering what sort of company doesn't even respond to emails requesting at least some sort of feedback to help you realise where you went wrong with the application process. So no, Interac in my mind is not a nice company at all; but as I said, it's good that people have had positive experiences with them, as they are a big company with a lot of ALTs working for them. I guess the one thing I learned from the experience was that you should never assume that just because you had a job doing something you are not guaranteed to get a similar job, even with a decent skillset. As for JET being competitive, that's news to me. Maybe in America it is hard to get accepted, but I found the application process to be very easy, painless, and rewarding. It didn't appear to me as if too many people were interested; and in fact, they told us that each year, fewer and fewer applicants were even applying, making positions really quite easy to secure. There are a lot of small companies out there. Never come across any advertisements from Altia Central, but then, there are probably a lot who don't advertise greatly, or even along main channels. You just have to have a backbone of steel when heading to a foreign country in the hopes that the company you are working for won't prove to be your ruin. Not to scare lamerobot44, but it's best to be extremely cautious, and always be prepared for the unexpected! The best advice I can give is to be both flexible and enthusiastic, no matter how you feel at any given time. :) Edit: I had to point this out, also. "my wife and I's intention" should read "my wife's and my intention" or "our intention". You cannot make the first person subject possessive with an apostrophe and no form change. You'll blow up the English language. :p
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