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I just started the Beginner/JLPT N5 Grammar lessons and it feels like the sentence quizzes are a lot harder than the Japanese Basics quizzes.
I'm on the first lesson ("Frequency Words") and it goes over frequency adverbs working with action verbs. But a lot of the quiz questions are not dealing with frequency adverb + action verbs, and quite a few use grammar that's not covered or barely covered in the lesson or the previous Japanese Basics lessons.
I know 思う and ので are part of the lesson's vocab but they have their own grammar that has not been taught yet. I think I should be approaching the N5 grammar lesson pack differently from the Japanese Basics lessons, but am not sure how to go about it.
I go at a very slow rate of one grammar lesson per week.
If you ever see grammar that hasn't yet been introduce, tap the ? Button and send in a wood report. I look over every single one, and adjust sentences where needed. I definitely want to knock out the issues you mentioned. :)
If it wasn't in a previous lesson, it shouldn't be in there. I try to cover all those when building the question sets, but I do miss some, do I appreciate the reports!
If you ever see grammar that hasn't yet been introduce, tap the ? Button and send in a wood report. I look over every single one, and adjust sentences where needed. I definitely want to knock out the issues you mentioned. :)
If it wasn't in a previous lesson, it shouldn't be in there. I try to cover all those when building the question sets, but I do miss some, do I appreciate the reports!
Thanks, will do!
Just to clarify, if something is not covered during a grammar lesson, but it does show up in the final slides of the lesson (i.e. the part after you click "Continue to Quiz"), I should report quiz questions about those as too difficult? This is assuming I'm following the renshuu schedule.
For example, in the N5 Frequency Words lesson, the only pattern that is taught is "positive/negative frequency word + positive/negative verb". But the part after clicking "Continue to Quiz" shows how to use frequency adverbs with ない-form verb (form not taught yet), adjectives (not covered during lesson), and nouns (not covered during lesson) - see image below. I'm safe to ignore quiz questions about those for now?
The grammar library (those are those usage patterns you copied in) will, as most dictionaries/references to, tend to use casual/dictionary forms when available. However, if the casual forms have not been taught in the renshuu lesson, then I would say they should not be appearing.
The grammar library (those are those usage patterns you copied in) will, as most dictionaries/references to, tend to use casual/dictionary forms when available. However, if the casual forms have not been taught in the renshuu lesson, then I would say they should not be appearing.
Sounds good, thanks for clarification.
What does it mean to "study ALL the new terms in a vocab lesson before moving onto the grammar"?
I thought that the terms in the next grammar lesson would be shown in the vocab schedule. However, if I disable the daily new term limit on vocab, it shows all the terms in the schedule for learning (e.g. hundreds). Should I be doing all the vocab in a schedule before starting the associated grammar?
Yes. Depending on your situation, this may cause a bit of a slowdown for the moment, but roughly, each new lesson brings 1-3 new grammar elements, and anywhere from 25-50 new words (which is not too different than your traditional language textbook).
Due to the low number of grammar elements, it can feel a bit like you are "lagging" because not much grammar progress is being made, but that is natural. If one was to study grammar at the same pace as vocabulary, one would finish ALL the grammar in renshuu in less than a year (which usually takes many, many years of studying). There's "only" about 1,000 grammar elements in all.
Thank you! I think the issue was that I hit schedule all on the "Words for Beginner Japanese" group. With only one list added at a time it showed the expected 25-50 new vocab terms for the first lesson.
Is this the correct way to use these schedules, adding one list at a time? I'm getting a message in my inbox now recommending me to add the "Words for Pre-Intermediate" schedule even though I've only finished the first list on Beginner, so I'm not sure.
If you want to keep the two schedules aligned, they'll have to not be where you added them yourself (selecting the lists and adding them), but adding the vocab/grammar schedule as a pack from the Manage your Schedules page. It sounds like you either made the schedules yourself (which works for all materials except for these linked schedules), or had the schedules premade, but perhaps added more materials on top of that?