Vocabulary dictionary

Kanji dictionary

Grammar dictionary

Sentence lookup

test
 

Forums - Importance to differ onyomi and kunyomi?

Top > 日本語を勉強しましょう / Let's study Japanese! > Anything About Japanese



avatar
フランク
Level: 4
My main goal with learning Japanese is to speak, read and write it. On the way I also want to do the JLPT tests to proof my proficiency.

I was wondering how important is it to differ the onyomi versus the kunyomi reading of kanji. Isn't it enough to know the reading without differentiation and in which vocabulary they are used in? I found that many Japanese don't know which is which as well and couldn't find a real reason to add this complexity when learning.

I realized I can't setup renshuu.org to just ask for the readings and skip all quiz types that force me to know which reading is onyomi or kunyomi. But maybe I missed that option or there is an importance of the ability to differ between them. So I wanted to get some opinions on the matter.
0
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
マイコー
Level: 301
Hmm, I actually had never thought about making an option where the readings quizzes are indifferent to the type of the readings being used. That's something to consider for a future update..

To your question, I don't find myself ever using the fact that something is onyomi or kunyomi in helping my day-to-day comprehension, or for anything else. The only time I actually use it is for the Kanji Kentei tests. There is one section on the actual test where you have to mark the readings in a vocab term as onyomi/kunyomi, and it is by far the lowest scored section of the test (a lot of the study materials you can purchase will have past tests, and show the average scores on each section). The score is usually around 50%.
0
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
フランク
Level: 4
Thanks. Considering your answer, I would like to make this a feature request. ;)
0
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
Level: 1
I sorta understand what the request is about, but isn't onyomi always written in katakana?
0
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
ジャック
Level: 1
Well, since the onyomi will typically be used in compounds, and the kunyomi when the kanji stands alone, it can help you figure out how to pronounce the kanji you're looking at.

The reason for native speakers forgetting is likely that they already have the compounds drilled so far into their brain they don't have to think about it, but for somebody (like me) clumsily making their way through a passage of text it can be a nice live saver. Of course those rules are far from 100% consistent, and it doesn't always work that way...
1
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
フランク
Level: 4
I wasn't aware of this, but it makes sense. Now thinking of it, it seem to help to know which reading is on and which is kun. But I found also many exceptions I am already aware of. Are there any more precise rules except compounds versus single kanji? I guess not, but one can hope.
0
16 years ago
Report Content
avatar
キャシー
Level: 1
Mostly I use it for guessing the correct reading of a term I haven't seen before, like ジャック said, but I've recently found another use - though not terribly useful, since I wouldn't want to risk embarrassing myself using it wrongly in actual conversation. Lately, we've been working on keigo in class, and I use the readings to guess whether something should have ご or お in front of it in the honorific form (since onyomi usually takes ご, and kunyomi usually takes お). Really though, if I'm in a situation where I'm using keigo, I probably will stick to words I actually know the honorific form of for sure.

@denpanosekai: The katakana is a convention in listing readings in kanji information, but in regular text it's all hiragana.
1
16 years ago
Report Content
Getting the posts




Top > 日本語を勉強しましょう / Let's study Japanese! > Anything About Japanese


Loading the list
Lv.

Sorry, there was an error on renshuu! If it's OK, please describe what you were doing. This will help us fix the issue.

Characters to show:





Use your mouse or finger to write characters in the box.
■ Katakana ■ Hiragana