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も 
1. As many/much as A
私 の お 祖父 さ ん は 、 犬 を ４ 匹 も 飼 っ て 居 る 。 
My grandfather has four dogs.
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2. Also A; A as well
屹 度 彼 も 同 じ 様 に 思 っ た で し ょ う 。 
Surely he too felt the same way.
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3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
何 事 も な く 、 無 事 に 戻 り ま し た 。 
I (they) returned safely without incident.
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4. Even [T], not even A
The negative form (not even) can be identified when the verb following the も is in the negative form.
高 田 君 は 歌 だ け で な く 絵 も 上 手 で 、 皆 驚 き ま し た 。 
Everyone was surprised because Takada is good at not just singing but drawing as well.
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5. Neither A nor B
A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
彼 も 此 れ も 全 部 要 ら な い 。 
I need neither this, that, nor anything.
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マイコー
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Thanks!
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ターラ
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Ah, this is much clearer to me now, cheers!
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mysticfive
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under the last/newest usage, you can also use ~くて for い adjectives - like 寒くても暑くてもない
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マイコー
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Added! It split up the display for the usages for some reason, but ...don't have time to look at it now!
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stupidguy
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The second usage, "Also A; A as well", includes in its construction a verb's dictionary form + も.

None of my other resources mentioned verbs in their relevant entry, so I'm trying to figure this out.

The examples I see don't use dictionary form but verb stem.

Is the construction meant to say Vstem + も?

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An example under verified sentences from Natsu:

> 私は生まれも育ちもロンドンです。
> I was born and brought up in London.

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There's another example provided in discussion from gdartflow as follows:

> 笑いも泣きもしない - neither laugh nor cry.

Correction: the above example matches usage 5.

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stupidguy
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I found a match for Vstem + も when I bumped it up to intermediate and allowed grammar entries for ~も~も.

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This entry has a match for a singular use of も:

Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar p.179-183 (uses stem)

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If usage 2 somehow got an incomplete affirmative version of usage 5 here, then these would be the relevant pages:

Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar p.185-189 (uses stem)

Handbook of Japanese Grammar Patterns p.614-615 under usage 2a ~も~も~ない (uses stem)

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I see a dictionary form usage in the Handbook p.616 under usage 2d. It focuses more on "whether or not" though.

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マイコー
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After thinking on it, I am inclined to agree that with that too/also definition, there isn't a way to really have it. The closest would be Dict + のも (using the の to nominalize the verb) 踊るのが好き。歌うのも好き。

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stupidguy
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Understood, thank you!

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