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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
Shows a situation/condition A that draws strong feelings/emotions

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     できない           ある  
Living in a country where you don't understand the language is a difficult thing.
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Constructions are as follows:

(できるものがある)Can't be out of the present tense.
なものがある)
(すごいものがある)

I'd also say the definition could be something along the lines of "shows strong emotions/feelings of the speaker about a fact or a characteristic of something/someone." "Has the feeling of ..." This one is a bit hard to get down. というじがある and ようにじる are a couple definitions I see but they are hard to really translate.
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10 years ago (Edited 10 years ago.)
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Well, I updated the usages and appended the meaning. I'm not sure the speaker is always going to have that emotional/feeling connection, though. Here's an example out of a book in front of me:

このにはくものがある.

This doesn't seem to suggest anything about the speaker - they're just stating a special fact about a particular movie and how it affects other people.
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10 years ago
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Ah I see. OK then I guess I'm not 100% on this one.
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10 years ago
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Alright, I had a bit of a chat with a native in regards to this. It's definitely a tricky one.

You were half-right about that it brings forth some kind of emotion or feeling, but it's not restricted to the speaker (which is how the sentence I stuck in there 2 posts above works).

Although I didn't understand this part 100%, she emphasized that the feeling/emotion is not something that can be concretely explained by the speaker - it's got a sense of vagueness to it. I'm not going to add that to the definition because I'm not exactly sure on it, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

PS: check your sentence submission for this grammar, I'm about to add some comments she had on it.
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10 years ago
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Why is it not possible to bind ものがある as a whole? Breaking it apart doesn't really make sense as it won't convey the meaning of the phrase.

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5 months ago
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Should be doable now!

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4 months ago
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