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1. In A; on A; at A
Used when describing the existence/presence of something.
  部屋  可愛    います  
There is a cute cat in my room.
2. To A; towards A; on A
        
I wanna go to Osaka.
3. At A (time)
This can be used with an actual time (xx:yy), day, month, etc.
     から    です  
The change is for the meeting to start from five.
4. Used with passive verbs to identify who/what is doing the action
咲子  よく                
Sakiko was often called and scolded by the teacher.
5. To change into A
6. Every period of time A, B; Per A, B
B is often of the form 一回, 三回, etc.; during the period A, something happens B times.
         んです  
I go to the beach once a month.
7. A and B
Used when the A and B often come as a set (e.g. food & drink)
この セット  コーヒー  ケーキ       
This set comes with coffee and cake.
8. Going/coming/returning to do A
       びに      
In the summer, I'm going to Hokkaido to have fun.
9. Shows the target/recipient A of the action
            
He made breakfast for her.
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Studying: JLPT N2
Level: 3, : 119
Looking at the usage for #2, couldn't you also say 「ライダーにする」? Because with the way its written, I'm thinking 「」 to literally change/transform as well as 「なる」? Though, my question probably - Can you use them interchangeably?

ライダーになるよ!」
いのします!」
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11 years ago (Edited 11 years ago.)
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Yea, I'd see them as the difference being 'to become' and 'to change/transform into', so probably not more than a slight change in the meanings, but *generally* the same.
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11 years ago
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Studying: JLPT N2
Level: 3, : 119
Thanks for the clarification on that :)b!!!!
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11 years ago
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wtf?! "Do A, A is happening" i don't understand this usage :O
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10 years ago
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Studying: のため、だから
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two things on the last usage - first, it appears most people have confused this pattern with (verb stem)に(motion verb - いく,くる etc) (I did too until looking at it again!) so maybe have something for that as well?
Also you can use a noun for that pattern as well if you use をねて - ねて (using numerous lies, or piling one lie on another)
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10 years ago
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Yea, I think I am going to just switch it other to the other form, then consider re-entering the new one at a later point.
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10 years ago
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Years Studied: 3
Studying: JLPT N3
Level: 1, : 274
For the passive verb meaning, should there be a + Passive Verb after the に?
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10 years ago
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Level: 68, : 5,826
Yes, that would be useful. Thanks!
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10 years ago
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Years Studied: ばかりしています。
Studying: anything that catches my eye
Level: 1, : 48
I keep getting an error message that just says "false" when I try to view the user sentences on "A and B (as a set)"
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7 years ago
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Hmm - it works in the renshuu beta - beta will become the main site in just a couple of weeks, so I recommend that you join it now (link in the Help menu), as no bug fixes are being made on the 2.0 (current) version of the site unless the quizzing stops working.
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7 years ago
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The link to passive tense on usage 4 seems to be broken.

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7 years ago
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Fixed, thank you!

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7 years ago
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For the 8th usage, DBJG says に can be used with verbs of motion to express purpose (and also adds る and る to that list), but not with verbs like く, る or ぐ (as they represent a specific mode of motion, rather than the movement itself).
Does anyone have a more complete list of such verbs (for instance, would using it with る or ちる be ungrammatical)?
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3 years ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
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I do not at all understand #7 A and B (as a set), for cannot find any (verified) example sentence for this particular usage.
I found that に means "and; in addition to". Would that be the same? If so does a sentence like える。fall under this usage as many people consider sugar a necessary companion for tea? On the other hand this に has a feel of にれる to it, which is closer to #2, is it not?
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3 years ago
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Just clarified that meaning a bit and added a sentence! You were right with the first guess - it is similar to と when the two often come together as a set.
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3 years ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
Level: 515, : 2,350
two things on the last usage - first, it appears most people have confused this pattern with (verb stem)に(motion verb - いく,くる etc) (I did too until looking at it again!) so maybe have something for that as well?
Also you can use a noun for that pattern as well if you use をねて - ねて (using numerous lies, or piling one lie on another)

Concerning #8, I still don't understand the diference between this に and にく・にる which can be found elsewhere in the grammar library. And how does ねて fit into this pattern?

What if に is sandwiched between nouns? Which category does that belong to?
e.g. パスポートの
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3 years ago
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I think に #8 and にく・る are the same - they just got put up in different places.

I'm not sure the last case you gave is properly covered yet, but I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment so I cannot research the usage enough to document it.
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3 years ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
Level: 515, : 2,350
I see. Thanks anyways.
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3 years ago
Years Studied: Since Nov 2018
Studying: JLPT N3
Level: 1, : 16
ればえたでしょう・だろうに。
If you had come here yesterday, you could have met Natsuko.

Is it still common for people to use this pattern? に was added as a final particle to express feelings of great regret or sympathy.
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3 years ago
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Years Studied: 0.2
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I thought that I was being stupid and kept misunderstanding what に did in a sentence, little did I know that it has nine different uses. Thank you just so much Japan :)

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5 months ago
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