I'm in a feature brainstorming mood, I hope it's fine.
I've started to add inidividual terms on my vocab schedule recently (instead of complaining about exotic readings, might as well learn them), and I find the current system a bit tricky. It's very easy to forget to click the "Save schedule" button after adding the terms since we already confirmed each term individually before.
Suggestions for possible improvements:
- Remove the button altogether (the schedul is updated when the "add to list" button is clicked);
- Add an alert "Do you really want to quit this page?" if the list has been changed but the schedule has not been saved;
- When you quit the page, do not remove the elements from the list that have not been added to the schedule (maybe put them in a different color or something like that).
I plan in the near future to become the main feature brainstormer of this website :D
Prematurely clicking the Save button before moving the added terms over has happened to me, too. I feel like the best option would be a warning if there are terms that have been a)searched for and returned, but b)not added. Of course, this would catch terms that the user intentionally decided to skip, but overall, it would probably catch more 'whoops!' cases than it does cause annoyance.
[quote author=マイコー link=topic_id=5576&post_id=28092#rmsg_28092 date=1361834725] I feel like the best option would be a warning if there are terms that have been a)searched for and returned, but b)not added. [/quote]
Just to be sure we're talking about the same thing, there are three steps when adding new words:
1) Searching for the words
2) Adding them to the list
3) Saving the schedule
I think the problem is not so much when you do 1) and forget do to 2) and 3), but more when you do 1) and 2) and forget to do 3), because it is not intuitive.
Otherwise, I agree a warning would be great.
Interesting - when you do 1) and 2) but forget 3), how do you proceed? Would you click on another link from the menu above?
I can definitely add a warning for both situations, but I am curious as to what a user would do in the second scenario.
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This exact thing happened to me last week. Just speaking for myself here, but what got me was the wording here:
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Just checking a lesson isn't enough; you have to click the "Save Schedule" button to actually add the kanji, which isn't immediately obvious since that button is so far up on the page. I think that makes it easy to just check the boxes then try to navigate somewhere else using the top menu bar (for me, back to my kanji schedule so I could quiz the new terms).
Of course this is obvious once you accidentally do it a few times, but I agree that maybe it's not so intuitive at first.
My guess is that rewording "2." to remind the user to click that button (or adding a "3." that says it, either way) and/or moving the Save Schedule button below the lessons check boxes would be a pretty good improvement. A warning popup would be nice as well for users navigating away without saving. Is it possible for the warning to be smart enough to only pop up if a user has made changes (added/removed checks from boxes)?
Another thing, dunno if it's just me, but when adding terms individually and there are more than one forms of the word, would it be possible to somehow indicate which is the most common one? For instance, searching for 'nasakenai' gives me 情無い, 情け無い and 情ない. I usually go the dictionary and see which one has the more number of sentences. Perhaps that could be shown in the search list itself?
[quote author=マイコー link=topic_id=5576&post_id=28100#rmsg_28100 date=1361921250]Interesting - when you do 1) and 2) but forget 3), how do you proceed? Would you click on another link from the menu above?
I can definitely add a warning for both situations, but I am curious as to what a user would do in the second scenario.[/quote]
1) Go to the "Adjust individual terms - Input vocab directly"
2) Enter different terms. In my case, it could easily be dozens.
3) I have different propositions for my first term, I choose one and click on "add to the list". Repeat for each term.
4) Leave the page without clicking on "Save schedule" which is up there at the top of the page. For example, clicking on a link to your schedule.
-> The schedule is not updated and the words added to the list have disappeared. This happened to me twice this week.
I've done the same thing on numerous occasion as well, when I was in Japan - I'd be working on a list, inputting about 30-40 terms, adding them to the list/looking things up in dictionaries and inputting definitions where needed, and then one of my coworkers would need to use the (single) internet-accessible computer (and my schools didn't have wireless so laptops couldn't access the network!) and I'd be all 'oh, just a sec' and exit the browser... and lose it all. Very frustrating!
