Vocabulary dictionary

Kanji dictionary

Grammar dictionary

Sentence lookup

test
 

Forums - Limit kanji readings in quizzes to the readings used in known words.

Top > renshuu.org > Feature Requests/Improvements > Finished/Rejected Requests



avatar
フランク
Level: 4
Now that we can control the related readings in kanji quizzes, I realized that I learn some readings for kanjis for that I don't know words that uses these readings. For example the kanji has the reading の and イン. But even in the JLPT Level 1 vocabulary there is no word using the reading イン. I personally learn kanji best when I also recall some related vocabulary with each reading. So I would like to limit to learn the readings for which I do know the words. Naturally I want to learn new readings when also learn the words coming with it. My suggestion would be to add a settings in the kanji quiz settings to learn only the kanji readings for the words I know. [list] [li]One first good step would be to allow to limit the readings to learn to certain vocabulary sets or to when the kanji is learned in japanese school (the later information is already in the database). [/li] [li]Even better and more advanced would be if the kanji learning could be linked to a vocabulary schedule. In this way only the kanji and kanji readings for words that are actually learnt would come in the kanji quizzes. [/li] [li]The final step would be also to link the kanji introduction with a vocabulary schedule. As soon as a word is introduced that uses a certain kanji or new kanji reading that is introduced to the kanji schedule. [/li] [/list]
0
12 years ago
Report Content
avatar
マイコー
Level: 295
a)For other users, keep in mind that the new feature he is referring to is (as of this post) only available in beta. Although I realize this is just the one example you happened to pick - for your personal inquiry, (いんしゅ), while not on the JLPT, is definitely a word you need to know at the JLPT N1 level. Steps one and two would be ..about the same difficulty to implement, so I don't see a need to separate them in terms of request priorities. The biggest problem I see: err....while trying to write this out, I realized I think I might already have all this information available in the database. When you study a word, even if you don't study kanji individually, it still keeps a detailed history of every 'reading' you've studied for each kanji. Now, doing what you propose and linking it to static lists would be more problematic (not if it was Japanese school reading level, but definitely with 'vocabulary sets' or personal schedules), and by problematic, I mean expensive in terms of time with loading all that data up each time a new kanji was introduced and the site needs to say 'hey, let's see which readings they need to learn'. If, however, it was just a simple link between 'i want to know all the readings that have appeared in words I have studied on the site or marked as known', then it is much, much, much easier to do. You could optionally apply a layer on top of that 'restrict to school level x'. The last step is...a completely different request, I think. If I understand you right, you could potentially do away with 'pure' kanji schedules that are made up from selections of other lists, and instead have 'companion' schedules that built themselves based upon progress of a vocabulary schedule - both in terms of which kanji to study, and what readings to study for those kanji. Is that what you're asking for?
0
12 years ago
Report Content
avatar
フランク
Level: 4
The option "learn only readings from words already studied" would help me pretty much. I assume it works the way, that kanji are marked as known if a kanji schedule includes them. But they are not trained as long as there is no word in the vocabulary, that uses this reading. But the kanji will be introduced as soon as a word using this kanji is introduced. But would that work the way you've described it? Doesn't the reading have to be used once before it can be introduced in a kanji schedule? But how would that work? The "last step" is kind of a combined kanji and vocabulary schedule. There is a list of vocabulary to learn and there is a list of kanji to learn in one schedule (or that could be two schedules that are linked). The additional function would be just that kanji and readings from the kanji list are introduced for that already a word is introduced using the kanji and reading. To explain the reasoning behind it: When learning both, kanji and vocabulary, there is not much sense in introducing , when I don't know たべる yet. On the other hand I've might have learn the word のむ, but don't learn for some time. At the end everything comes in place, but why not letting the site giving the additional comfort. I realize on the other hand, that I just knowing a word, doesn't mean you do know the kanji or even want to learn the kanji at that point.
0
12 years ago
Report Content
Getting the posts




Top > renshuu.org > Feature Requests/Improvements > Finished/Rejected Requests


Loading the list
Lv.

Sorry, there was an error on renshuu! If it's OK, please describe what you were doing. This will help us fix the issue.

Characters to show:





Use your mouse or finger to write characters in the box.
■ Katakana ■ Hiragana