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yuuichan
Level: 1
Hey everyone,
I was wondering.... in the grammar section under Jlpt 4 is that ALL of the grammar listed? I done the test on the kanjisite and the grammar was my worst part i only got 60% and it's now under 2 weeks till the exam :S

Anyways I'm tryin to brush up my grammar here the listed ones are:
さい
さい
ないでさい
さいませんか
さいませんか
ましょう
ませんか

Where's the rest!??? :'( :'( :'( :'(
Any help or additional sites that have helped anyone would be most appreciated!!!
thanks ^^
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マイコー
Level: 292
Most of the grammar structures are on the site, although there is a lot (namely, conjugations, how to use adjectives/verbs, etc) that is not yet on renshuu's grammar library. Hopefully someone else can recommend other sites that they use for grammar?
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darkje
Level: 1
The best list is at http://www.jlptstudy.com, just click on the level 4 list for grammar.

On items I do not understand, I check Renshuu, if I cannot find it, I go to
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar . I will also reference my handbook (Genki 1).

Ironically I found my grammar retention greatly increased by doing past jlpt 4 tests and seeing it in context.

Apologies as I do not have japanese installed on this machine :

te+kudasai = please do (tabete kudasai)
te+kudasai+masenka= won't you do x? (Tabete kudasai masenka?)

These two are the same, but the second one is more polite.

naide + kudasai = Please don't (tabenaide kudasai)

the o+kudasai is please give me (as in NOUN o kudasai, noun can also be sore (that), kore(this) o kudasai). They use this all the time in the listening to throw you off.

Mashou = won't you do this with me/us? (tabemashou? - stem+mashou)
Deshou = Isn't it or Probably ( oishii deshou? - Can be anything + deshou)
(I added deshou because I tend to mix them up conjugation wise)

Masenka = won't you do this with me? (tabemasenka). This one always throws me off in listening, because you hear MASEN, which is usually negative.

Also check out SHIKA (+neg verb) and DAKE, they change the whole sentence around, very tricky especially during listening (eg, I want a green hat and a black hat and the reply will be oh Midori shika arimasen, which means there is only a green one, they dont have the black one, not there is no green one).

Please double check anything I wrote as I'm a beginner myself. And I totally understand your stress, I'm getting pretty nervous already for the jlpt4 and it's 2 more weeks!
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darkje did a pretty good job at explaining those grammar patterns, except I'd like to clarify on one of them.

~ましょう is "Let's..." whereas ~ましょうか is "Shall I/we...?"

Good luck on the JLPT 4!
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yuuichan
Level: 1
Thats great thanks ^^
I think i pretty much know the grammar that i listed above but there's some i havent covered that have me scratching my head in the past exam papers :-[

I'll check out those websites thanks everyone !
Good luck to on your 4kyuu darkje ^^
I'm starting to panic too lol
(^.^)v
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