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Fixed, thanks!

I agree with Karlla, にかぎり are にかぎって are not interchangeable thus shouldn't be listed together, quoting what "A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar" page 251 says:

"The phrase にかぎって is used to express an exclusive focus on a topic item X. The predicate is either explicitly negative or implicitly negative. An explicitly affirmative predicate cannot occur with にかぎって"
Therefore taking the example sentence on top of the page, if it was:

先着１００名に限って、サービス券を差し上げます

seems it would be questionable from a grammar correctness point.

Ok, so I'm in the midst of researching this, and while I am not sure this page should be split up, there needs to be additional entries. It seems that while a lot of the above information is not incorrect per se, it is not complete, either.

#1 (New usage) AにかぎってB - Shows unfortunate (and often expected) result B when A occurred.

#2 (Current usage) Aにかぎって/にかぎり - Only on/for [A] - there is not a presumed positive or negative connotation.

#3 AにかぎってB - Because of full trust/faith/confidence in A, shows positive expectation B.

Now, it appears to me that the Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar is not covering all the uses. It does not cover several of the ones mentioned in Shin Kanzen master, so it can be tricky to see a usage and assume that it is the *only* way to use it.

So I believe that while the information on renshuu is correct, it's not complete.

So, here are some sources I am referencing:

DIJG (mentions only #1)

Shin Kanzen (mentions all three)

https://nihongokyoshi-net.com/... (mentions all three usages)

https://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/... (mentions all three)

https://nihongonosensei.net/?p... (mentions only #1)

https://chiyo-sampo.net/gramma... (mentions all three)

So, my proposed changes would be to keep the current meaning/usage (#2), and add two more (#1 and #3). I'd love to see what your thoughts are before making this change, @Karlla and @MarcusAseth

I haven't looked into this topic since I last posted here, so I'm not up to date. But I'm in for anything that helps clarify the different usages of these expressions. That being said, I agree with the expansion of the topic.

i also agree with Marcus that the AxB pattern is sometimes confusing. :)

Why is the never of this example sentence in parentheses? It doesn't make sense without the word, and the Japanese sentence has a ない in it, too.

#3 "This maker would (never) make such unfashionable clothes."

it says im unable to study this in my grammar list because no quiz is available, or something to that effect. specifically the 2nd out of the 3 entries.