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The only thing よくて can join to is the verb phrase/description/adjective phrase 「かをう」, together to describe こと

Is my interpretation correct?

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どうでもよい is an expression for "doesn't matter"


So, my interpretation is (which could be wrong):

So, the first line

きてもどうでもよくて

is something like "It doesn't matter if other people live or not"

and the Te ending links it to the next clause basically meaning "And"


The next line:

かをうこともファッションで

is something like: "Hating someone is also fashion"

and the "De" ending here (a Te form ending) probably also means "And" and will link to another clause (not provided)

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In that case, why use て instead of で, i don't think it makes sense for an adjective to connect to a verb, right?

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I.e. ....で + ....で + ...たべる

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I'm not sure where you see an adjective connecting to a verb.

verbs, ii adjectives, and nouns + na adjectives, are treated differently to put them in Te form.

The ii adjective よい drops an い and adds くて to put it in the Te form よくて

The noun ファッション adds on a で to put it in the Te form ファッションで


So with:

きてもどうでもよくて

かをうこともファッションで

I think we'd have something like:

"It doesn't matter if other people live or not, and*

Hating someone is also fashion, and

..."

(*with the Te form this "and" could also mean "so", but it is ambiguous)


But, it's very possible that I am out to lunch on this.

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Maybe I expressed myself wrong, though what does よくて actually connect to? Must be an adjective, right? But the next is a verb (で) / verb phrase. I can't see any adjective it can connect to. Replacing it with よいで would make sense though, since it would be connecting a verb / verb phrase to another verb / verb phrase.

Could you explain a bit further?

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While we can put adjectives in Te form to link them to other adjective, that isn't the only thing we can do with Te form.


I'm not a linguist, nor an expert in Japanese, so I probably am not using the proper terminology, but the way I understand it is, one of the things I can do with Te form is:

If I have [clause A] and [clause B] I can link the clauses together by putting clause A in Te form.


So if clause A is: がうれしい。 (The cat is happy)

clause B is: いぬがしい。(The dog is sad)

and I convert clause A to Te form  がうれしくて

I can slap clause B on the end to get:

がうれしくていぬがしい. (The cat is happy *AND the dog is sad)

This AND could also mean SO, as it is ambiguous.


If our clause A was きてもどうでもよい (It doesn't matter if other people live or not)

And we wanted to attach it to clause B: かをうこともファッションだ (Hating someone is also fashion)

We put clause A in Te form by making the よい into よくて, and slap clause B on the end to get:

きてもどうでもよくて

かをうこともファッションだ

"It doesn't matter if other people live or not AND Hating someone is also fashion"

And if we want to attach another clause C on the end we can convert ファッション into Te form to get:

きてもどうでもよくて

かをうこともファッションで

[clause C]

"It doesn't matter if other people live or not AND Hating someone is also fashion AND [clause C]"

Again, this is the way I understand it, but it is very possible I am wrong here.

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Ahh...thank you for your efforts for the long post, I finally understand now!

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