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When compared to A
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Compared to last year, this summer is hot.
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Compared to Chinese with its 6000-plus kanji, I think Japanese is easy to study.
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When compared to studying a foreign language in a large group, practicing conversation is difficult alone.
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My grades have improved since first semester.
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Compared to a computer, a word processor has a single purpose.
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CEO's of American corporations are paid several times their Japanese counterparts.
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I'm clumsy compared to that (young) person.
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Compared to a full-time employee, part-timers have freedom, but no security.
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My brother has charm when compared to me.
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Japanese-made goods are expensive compared to those made in China.
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Construction
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ANoun
べて
Basic Examples:
べて (compared to him)

ANoun
Basic Examples:
(compared to last year)

ASentence
のに
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Grammar usage notes

When using this pattern, be sure to not use comparative forms - for example, べてい, not べてい。 In other words, the part after べ(て)should be able to stand on its own.
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mysticfive
Level: 2017

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Level: 1
There is also another construction possible:
Sentence + のに +

Example:
するのにべ、くは便だが、もある。
Asking a teacher is more convenient than studying alone, but there are also drawbacks.
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 300
Great, thanks for the suggestion!
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14 years ago
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Isn't construction 3 the same as 2? In さん’s するの」and[にべ] are distinct units, in which the the の is simply nominalizing the する. Therefore #3 doesn't exist I don't think? Or am I incorrect? Be great to hear other people's views. Thanks :)
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12 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 300
You're correct in that it is nominalizing the verb, so...techinically, yes, they could be considered the same. I added the second because I believe that a lot of people don't immediately think of nominalized nouns when they see the word 'Noun' as part of a grammar structure. In other words, it is just to make it a bit clearer for users.
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12 years ago
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thanks! :)
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12 years ago
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Are there any nuanced differences between にべ and にべて?
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12 years ago
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virmaior
Level: 1
べ is the version for formal writing (). So the differences all derive from that. Using the and its friend である in speech make you sound like you're talking down to people -- or so I'm told.
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12 years ago
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Thanks, thought so!
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12 years ago
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やれやれ
Level: 241

I found this phrase and the truth is that it sounds very good to me, but it doesn't follow the pattern given here.

べるとくなったとはっきりじられる。

I.e., instead of にべ or にべて it's using にべると
Is it incorrect in any way? kao_yes.pngkao_no.png

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8 months ago
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マイコー
Level: 300

That works - it's more of the "standard" way to use the verb, instead of a specific structure that has been "packaged" as a grammar/expression point for learning.

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