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When compared to A
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Compared to last year, this summer is hot.
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        ある                       
Compared to Chinese with its 6000-plus kanji, I think Japanese is easy to study.
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When compared to studying a foreign language in a large group, practicing conversation is difficult alone.
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          よく なった  
My grades have improved since first semester.
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コンピューター      ワープロ        しか 使     
Compared to a computer, a word processor has a single purpose.
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アメリカ    トップ       トップ          もらっている  
CEO's of American corporations are paid several times their Japanese counterparts.

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Construction
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ANoun
べて
Basic Examples:
べて (compared to him)

ANoun
Basic Examples:
(compared to last year)

ASentence
のに
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User notes
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When using this pattern, be sure to not use comparative forms - for example, べてい, not べてい。 In other words, the part after べ(て)should be able to stand on its own.
12 years ago
avatar mysticfive - Level 872

Discussion about this grammar
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Years Studied: 5
Studying: JLPT N1
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There is also another construction possible:
Sentence + のに +

Example:
するのにべ、くは便だが、もある。
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11 years ago
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Great, thanks for the suggestion!
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11 years ago
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Isn't construction 3 the same as 2? In さん’s するの」and[にべ] are distinct units, in which the the の is simply nominalizing the する. Therefore #3 doesn't exist I don't think? Or am I incorrect? Be great to hear other people's views. Thanks :)
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9 years ago (Edited 9 years ago.)
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You're correct in that it is nominalizing the verb, so...techinically, yes, they could be considered the same. I added the second because I believe that a lot of people don't immediately think of nominalized nouns when they see the word 'Noun' as part of a grammar structure. In other words, it is just to make it a bit clearer for users.
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9 years ago
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thanks! :)
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9 years ago
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Are there any nuanced differences between にべ and にべて?
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9 years ago
Studying: N1
Level: 1, : 23
べ is the version for formal writing (). So the differences all derive from that. Using the and its friend である in speech make you sound like you're talking down to people -- or so I'm told.
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8 years ago
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Thanks, thought so!
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8 years ago



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