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After A occurs, B will (soon) occur
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               ください  
As soon as the explanation is finished, please start the exam.
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No matter how sleepy the students are, the teacher starts teaching as soon as she enters the classroom.
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Immediately after dinner ends, I wash the dishes.
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あなた     でき            
We'll leave as soon as you are ready.
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あちら                
I'll write you as soon as I arrive there.

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ザッカリーダルグレン
Level: 260
(1 year ago)

After talking with my Japanese co-workers about する verbs with this pattern, they told me that you are supposed to leave the し. However in terms of practical use a Japanese school teacher told me that Native Japanese speakers will often change する to できる when using this pattern.

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matheusjunior
Level: 1
(8 years ago)
It is also possible to leave the し attached to Nする verbs. (マスターN2、3
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Level: 34
(9 years ago)
1. For Nする verbs, leave off the し: N. E.g. [DIJG pp386-7; cf まとめN2 pp 64-65]
2. いらっしゃる becomes いらっしゃり; おっしゃる becomes おっしゃり; なさる becomes なさり
3. Don't use past tense in main clause.
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matheusjunior
Level: 1

It seems to me that it is also possible to leave し on its place with する verbs.

The answer for the exercise 3.3 on p.18 (マスターN2) is with し attached to the verb (し).

As a single source is not so reliable sometimes, I have also checked a few other sources online,

here, here and here.


It seems both are used so I am not saying the grammar note above is wrong...

Could someone give more information on that? Are the links trustful?

(I think I don't know any Japanese-only trustful website about (Japanese) grammar...)


Thanks in advance. smile.gif

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マイコー
Level: 262

You're correct - the lovely gives an example with the し still attached. Please feel free to add a second usage note showing the potential usage of し.

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