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Nihongo So-Matome N1 (日本語総まとめ) > 第１週　6日目

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所ところを ／ 所ところに ／ 所ところへ 
1. At time/situation A
私 が 丁 度 家 を 出 よ う と 思 っ て 居 る 所 へ 、 小雨 が 降 り 始 め た 。 
I was on the point of leaving home when a light rain started to fall.
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と 為した 所ところで 、 と 為した っ て 
1. Even from the viewpoint (of) A
Usually implies that even from A, there is some negative element/response (that follows this expression).
今日 負 け た と 為 た っ て 、 君 の 努 力 が 足 り な か っ た 訳 じ ゃ な い 。 
Even considering we lost today, it wasn't because your effort was lacking.
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と 言いっ た 所ところだ 
1. Display an amount/level/degree A (程度)
Ａ ： お 母 さ ん の 具合 は 如何 だ い ？  Ｂ ： う ん 、 ま あ 、 一 進 一 退 と 言 っ た 所 だ 。 
A: How is your mother's health? B: Well, she has her good times and bad times.
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た 所ところで 
1. Even if A; although A (is done)
Usually suggests that even if A is done, it's not enough/too late/something else can't be done.
私 た ち が 話 し 合 っ た 所 で 何 も 解 決 為 な い わ 。 
Even if we discuss it, we're not going to reach any kind of resolution.
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