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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
To make A; To change into A.

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その    大人   鹿 にする  
The boy makes a fool of adults.
To choose A (when ordering/choosing)

Example(s)

コーヒー  どんな   しましょう     ブラック  いい です   
How do you like your coffee? Strong and black?
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I don't understand the description on this point at all. Normally I can figure it out from the examples people have written but there aren't any yet!!

From hearing this in everyday use I thought that it meant in (in this way)なにかする。For example, 「しくする」 - do it while having fun. But by these descriptions it seems like it might be totally different?
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9 years ago
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I'm trying to add more example sentences, but it takes time because I run them all by native speakers before they appear on these pages.

I can help you out with that usage though. Like the point says, it's often used when making decisions, like at a restaurant. If the waiter asks you what you want, you could say
カレーにします. (I'll have the curry).

The adjectival forms are much rarer, but still valid. The noun form is what I hear the most often.
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9 years ago
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Oh, I see!! The curry point made it a lot clearer.

My apologies, it's been a while since I've used renshuu, and I missed the tab for the user-submitted sentences! There are loads of examples on there.
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9 years ago
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Years Studied: 7 - since February 2011
Studying: N3
Level: 11, : 64

I can help you out with that usage though. Like the point says, it's often used when making decisions, like at a restaurant. If the waiter asks you what you want, you could say
カレーにします. (I'll have the curry).


Could I ask, what level of politeness is this? (I don't want to accidently offend the person who's taking my order ^_^")

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4 years ago
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Straight up normal politeness, but it feels more like something you might say to yourself or someone else in your party more often than directly to the waiter. I might say it to my wife, then when the waiter come by, just run off all the things I'm going to get.

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4 years ago
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Years Studied: 7 - since February 2011
Studying: N3
Level: 11, : 64

Straight up normal politeness, but it feels more like something you might say to yourself or someone else in your party more often than directly to the waiter. I might say it to my wife, then when the waiter come by, just run off all the things I'm going to get.


Ah fantastic, thanks so much!

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4 years ago
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Years Studied: Since April '18
Level: 1, : 42
Can someone help me understand this point a bit better?  I got the sentence が を しく して くれた. I can't find any other examples of 'しくして', and I don't understand the function of the extra 'して' at the end.
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1 year ago
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This sentence actually combines two grammar points. This and てくれる: https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/66
しくする, by itself, means 'to make new', while ~てくれる means 'to do for me', so combined they would be 'to make new for me'. So しくしてくれた would be something like 'My mother made the futon new for me' (or 'freshened' as the translation gives it more clearly).

Renshuu's sentence library contains several more examples of this kind, like:
このかくしてくれた。 - These gloves kept her hands warm.
ジムがくしてくれたならなあ。 - I wish Jim would behave himself.
くしてくれます。 - Milk makes us strong.
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1 year ago
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Years Studied: Since April '18
Level: 1, : 42
Ah, thanks, I think I understand now!

So, starting with しくする, but it has to be in the て form for ~てくれる, which gives しくして (and that's where the してcomes from that was confusing me)  and then it's くれた for the past tense.

Makes sense, cheers!
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1 year ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
Level: 141, : 777
Stupid question:
Where can I find the adverbial constructions i-adj. + く/na-adj. + に + verb (other than なる, する) that do not necessarily imply change?
e.g. いている。

Thanks
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1 year ago
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I mentioned in on your other message, but adjectives don't get enough love yet in the grammar library! I'll rectify that as soon as I can!
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1 year ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
Level: 141, : 777
It's a pity that adjectives should be so underrated. I certainly love them.^^
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1 year ago
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Years Studied: Many on and off
Studying: N2
Level: 141, : 777

I've been discussing #2 with my hubby, and he said that instead of きくする you'd rather say きいにする or きいのにする etc. In other words, according to his opinion, adj.くする cannot be used for choices. I also looked into my grammar book, and it says that にする is used exclusively with nouns or noun + particle compounds.
If adj.くする should be possible after all, I'd very much like to see an example sentence.

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1 month ago
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Sorry for the delay. I totally agree, and have fixed up the site to remove that usage style.

Additionally, there was an issue with the way the site combined usages that has shared elements. (Two meanings on the same page). That is also fixed!

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1 month ago
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