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Nicolas2
Level: 31
I just activated a Renshuu pro bonus from your summer offer (thanks!). I immediately went to try the listening questions (sound>meaning) on my N3+N2 schedule, and to keep the schedule down to 3 vectors, I removed the kana>meaning vector, which is pretty much its mute equivalent.
But things didn't go as expected: immediately, I was 3000 words late on this schedule, and most words dropped to mastery level 2. I did a few questions anyway, and I agree, it's better this way... But the overall mastery level dropped to 33% when it was 67% a few minutes earlier.
I went back to kana>sound, but I'm still at 33% overall mastery for this schedule, and still with a crushingly enormous schedule ahead to complete.
Would it be possible to undo this and get back to a manageable schedule, please?
Would it be possible to introduce words to the sound>meaning vector by assuming the mastery at this level is the same as the kana>meaning mastery?
Most likely, our memory will be triggered slightly better by the sound or by the writing (I'm betting on the sound), and mastery levels will end up being different for those 2 vectors, but for the sake of not getting an additional 15,000 not-so-useful questions, it would be great if each new word introduced to this vector starts with the same mastery as kana>meaning. It would also be another measure to prevent schedules to run out of control. In my case, 15000 questions is 4 months of vocab questions, meaning my vocab level wouldn't actually improve for 4 montgs, with no new words, instead of ~400 planned.
If you can do this, I would guess the reverse measure would also make sense, for someone who usually does sound>meaning questions but cannot make noise in some occasions.
I'm looking forward to try the vocab in context questions, but I'll avoid vocab questions for the moment and check out the grammar questions.
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マイコー
Level: 300
Let me think on this. This is what other users do within the current system - they make a listening schedule that is separate from the "main" one, then they slap a daily limit on it so they do not get overwhelmed. Your mastery levels should "return" if you just disable the listening vector for that schedule.

I have a mixture of feelings about the various suggestions you make about introducing new vectors, but I need to think about them some more. That being said, it is unfortunately something I cannot work on at the moment - the beta is strictly limited to the introduction module.

I would like to hear what others think, particularly the assumption of mastery levels from other vectors when a new vector is introduced.
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マイコー
Level: 300
PS: as a favor to you, I could manually adjust all your listening vectors. If so, tell me once more which vector or vectors you'd like to use as a base for generating the new levels.
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Nicolas2
Level: 31

Yes, making a separate schedule probably makes sense too, but it still feels like I'd have to go through an additional 15,000 questions before the words are asked at intervals corresponding to my current knowledge of them. The time I can devote to Japanese will probably decrease during the next few months (more work, and stuff), so it's not really an option.


マイコー は 08 11, 10:09に
PS: as a favor to you, I could manually adjust all your listening vectors. If so, tell me once more which vector or vectors you'd like to use as a base for generating the new levels.
It would be great, if you could generate the audio>meaning levels for my vocab from the kana>meaning level. Thank you very much.
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マイコー
Level: 300
Should be good! (or, if you are reading this the second I type it, it'll be good within a few seconds).
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Nicolas2
Level: 31
Should be good! (or, if you are reading this the second I type it, it'll be good within a few seconds).
Somehow, the N3+N2 schedule is still (after one hour) at either at 33% or 34% if I select kana or audio (somehow half words at level 3), when it was 67% with kana, this morning. Could the problem be related to the fact that the schedule is in quick mode instead of in-depth?
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マイコー
Level: 300
On the summary page, if you click the title above all the mastery levels and toggle off of Overall and onto the other vectors, you can see that it is kana->def that is pulling everything down. You said that was in the schedule previously, right? Study vectors cannot affect the vectors of other ones - simple mode just moves them all up one on a correct answer - it does not move them all up to the same one.

Any ideas as to why about 1700 terms are still at L3 for that particular vector?
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Nicolas2
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Yes, now I understand. I was doing kana>kanji (which is around level 6), not kana>meaning. So I should have switched to audio>kanji. Sorry for the confusion!
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