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It is no guarantee that A
States that while A might be a logical conclusion to a situation, it is not always the case.
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      する という もの でも ない  
(Even) if you try your best, it does not mean you will succeed.
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   いれば   という もの でも ない  
Even if you have a significant other, there's no guarantee that you will be happy.
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この    どこにでも ある というもの ではない  
You can't find this article everywhere.
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      いい というもの ではない   
New products are not necessarily good.

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Aい-adjective
 
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Aな-adjective
 
 
いうものは/もない
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Update on the construction:

Plain form verb + というものでは (も) ない
Noun + (だ+) というものでは (も) ない
I-adjective + というものでは (も) ない
Na-adjective + というものでは (も) ない
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12 years ago
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Updated, thanks!
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12 years ago
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What is the politeness of the grammar. It's awfully long, which makes me assume that its formal or higher. Is this something you will hear in everday conversation?
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9 years ago
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I have heard it in both casual conversation and polite. The ではない tends to change depending on the politeness level: I hear it as じゃない, but I have also heard it as ではありません. I would not say it fits into a single politeness level, but rather can be used in different settings.
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9 years ago
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Oh,that makes sense now that I think about it. Thanks! :D
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9 years ago
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Hi,


Does a specific rule exist to use でもない over ではない? It seams random to me.

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7 years ago
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Probably a question that should be asked separately in the site's forums, since it covers a much broader usage pattern :)

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7 years ago



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