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彼 は 毎 朝 起 き る か 起 き な い か の 内 か ら お 酒 を 飲 む 癖 が 有 り ま す 。 
He has a habit of drinking alcohol as soon as he gets up every morning.
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テ レ ビ の 前 に 座 る か 座 ら な い か の 内 に 寝 て 仕 舞 っ た 。 
As soon as I sat in front of the TV I fell asleep.
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其 の 一 行 が 出 発 為 る か 為 な い か の うち に 、 雨 が 降 り 出 し た 。 
The party had hardly left when it began to rain.
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AVerb: Dictionary Form
 
AVerb: Casual, past (た)
 
 
かBVerb: ない formかのうちにCAction
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Grammar usage notes

Implies surprise, as in Verb A has finished, then verb C suddenly occurs.
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lou1sb
Level: 1
“barely when” — it expresses that one action happens almost simultaneously with another, often before the first action is even fully completed.

Ex. ベルが鳴るか鳴らないかのうちに、子どもたちは教室を飛び出した。
Just as the bell rang, the children ran out of the classroom.
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SkyLynx
Level: 100

Questions/Discussion

Instead of の内に、can we use の頃？ I have found a use like this but I'm not sure if it's the same grammar point
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風来のラウル
Level: 842

Discussion about this grammar
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aileen
Level: 1
In the construction, there is an A part, a B part, and a C part, but the meaning only has A and B. Are the A and B in the construction supposed to be the same verb, only conjugated differently? The user-provided examples make it seem so.
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 315
Fixed, sorry!
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
An update on the construction:
た form verb + か + ない form verb + かのうちに
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 315
As always, thanks!
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16 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Maybe it's just me but it's showing up very strangely on my screen at the very top. 'うち に"/>' is being displayed above the header.
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 315
Fixed, thanks for the heads up!
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16 years ago
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恵理子
Level: 1
Again, maybe it's just me, but the construction is showing up very strangely. I can see only かのうち, and the rest is cut off by the background (as strangely as it may seem).
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 315
Should be better; I shortened the text in one of the boxes!
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15 years ago
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恵理子
Level: 1
Thanks!
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15 years ago
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quetzl
Level: 1
Can this grammar be used in requests or suggestions?
Since I have not seen an example where it is, I think that you can't.
例は
食べるか食べないかのうちに、部著のオフィスに行ってください。
食べるか食べないかのうちに、部著のオフィスに行くのほうがいい。
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14 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
According to my ALC dictionary it says that that phrases expressing volition like よう and つもり, commands or negatives can't be used. It describes an actual event so I don't believe either of those uses can be used here.
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14 years ago


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