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A and B are the same verb/action.
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彼 は 毎 朝 起 き る か 起 き な い か の 内 か ら お 酒 を 飲 む 癖 が あります 。 
He has a habit of drinking alcohol as soon as he gets up every morning.
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テ レ ビ の 前 に 座 る か 座 ら な い か の 内 に 寝 て し ま っ た 。 
As soon as I sat in front of the TV I fell asleep.
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その 一 行 が 出 発 する か しない か の 内 に 、 雨 が 降 り 出 し た 。 
The party had hardly left when it began to rain.

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AVerb: Dictionary Form
 
AVerb: Casual, past (た)
 
 
かBVerb: ない formかのうちにCAction
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lou1sb
Level: 1
(15 years ago)
Implies surprise, as in Verb A has finished, then verb C suddenly occurs.
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aileen
Level: 1
In the construction, there is an A part, a B part, and a C part, but the meaning only has A and B. Are the A and B in the construction supposed to be the same verb, only conjugated differently? The user-provided examples make it seem so.
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 261
Fixed, sorry!
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15 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
An update on the construction:
た form verb + か + ない form verb + かのうちに
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 261
As always, thanks!
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14 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Maybe it's just me but it's showing up very strangely on my screen at the very top. 'うち に"/>' is being displayed above the header.
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 261
Fixed, thanks for the heads up!
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14 years ago
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恵理子
Level: 1
Again, maybe it's just me, but the construction is showing up very strangely. I can see only かのうち, and the rest is cut off by the background (as strangely as it may seem).
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13 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 261
Should be better; I shortened the text in one of the boxes!
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13 years ago
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恵理子
Level: 1
Thanks!
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13 years ago
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quetzl
Level: 1
Can this grammar be used in requests or suggestions?
Since I have not seen an example where it is, I think that you can't.
例は
食べるか食べないかのうちに、部著のオフィスに行ってください。
食べるか食べないかのうちに、部著のオフィスに行くのほうがいい。
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12 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
According to my ALC dictionary it says that that phrases expressing volition like よう and つもり, commands or negatives can't be used. It describes an actual event so I don't believe either of those uses can be used here.
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12 years ago
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