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Whether or not A, B; Putting A aside
B is considered more important than A in the context of the sentence.
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あの プ レ ゼ ン ト を 包 ん だ 紙 は ともかく 中 身 は 好 き な はず だ と 思 い ま す 。 
Nevermind the wrapping paper, you should like the contents of the present.
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あの 旅 館 は 外 観 は ともかく 、 おもてなし が 最 高 だ 。 
This Japanese hotel's outside appearance aside, the hospitality is the best.
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彼 は 性 格 は ともかく 、 交 渉 能 力 は 素 晴 ら し い の 一 言 だ 。 
Putting his personality aside, his negotiation ability is simply wonderful.

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ANoun は ともかく
 
ANoun は ともかく として
 
 
BNoun
Basic Examples:
大きさはともかく質 (whether it's big or not, quality (is important etc))

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まことまじま
Level: 451
(3 years ago)
Compares two matters; implies topic brought up also has to be considered, but that for now, some other topic should receive priority.
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mireille
Level: 1
Noun + はともかく ・ はともかくとして
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 265
追加しました！ありがとうございます。
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14 years ago
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night_in_girl
Level: 1
after NounB は　or　が。
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13 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 265
Do you see that as a requirement, or just a common usage?
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13 years ago
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|マルコ|
Level: 110

I've encountered this today while playing Dragon Quest 6:
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今王と王妃さまが早く元気になれるようお祈りをしています。
王妃様はともかく王様はすでにかなりのおトシ。

My (poor xD) translation:
I'm praying for the King and Queen to get well soon.
Setting the Queen aside, the King has already a certain age.

- Given that, I would like to suggest the addition of "setting aside" as meaning for this grammar point

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1 year ago
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マイコー
Level: 265

I took that, and made some clarity adjustments to the meaning.

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stupidguy
Level: 182

I'm just leaving a note; I haven't studied this yet.

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In the Handbook, page 379, at the start of the entry for とにかく, ともかく is given as another form.

There are three constructions listed from pages 379-380:

とにかく

とにかくV

Nはとにかく(として) -- Likely a match to this page.

In the Intermediate Dictionary, pages 218-219, under the related expressions for なにしろ, there's a short discussion of とにかく. The tl;dr is that とにかく isn't a speaker-oriented expression and can be used for "highly hearer-oriented" use (so the same might be said for ともかく?).

I didn't find renshuu pages for なにしろ or とにかく.

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