A is B and C is D; neither A is B nor C is D
Used to show two conditions are either both true or both false
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私も行くならば子供も一緒に行きます。
If I go, the kids will go together as well.
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Getting the sentences
Construction
(Elements in parentheses are optional.)
Basic Examples:
雪も止めなければ春も来ない (the snow won't stop nor will spring come)
Basic Examples:
漢字も複雑ならローマ字も簡単 (kanji is complicated and roman characters are simple)
Basic Examples:
女子も可愛ければ男子も格好いい (girls are cute and boys are cool)
Where this grammar is found
Grammar usage notes
機能：付け加える
形：Nも~ば、Nも＿＿＿＿。
意味：＿＿も~し、＿＿も＿＿。（いろいろだ）
形：Nも~ば、Nも＿＿＿＿。
意味：＿＿も~し、＿＿も＿＿。（いろいろだ）
Questions/Discussion
the example sentences seem to be wrong Basic Examples:
漢字もふくざつならローマ字もかんたん (kanji is complicated and roman characters are simple)
ANoun
も
Bい-adjective: ければ form
~
CNoun
も
Dい-adjective
Basic Examples:
女子もかわいければ男子も格好いい (girls are cute and boys are cool)
漢字もふくざつならローマ字もかんたん (kanji is complicated and roman characters are simple)
ANoun
も
Bい-adjective: ければ form
~
CNoun
も
Dい-adjective
Basic Examples:
女子もかわいければ男子も格好いい (girls are cute and boys are cool)
It’s actually right, just not as clear as it could be. The verb can take either of the conditional forms, I believe. (なら or ば).
In Tobira (and DJG) this pattern appears but seems to infer something other/more than "both true" or "both false", I'll just quote:
～もVば～もV (A. 258)
A structure used to present typical examples of actions, events, situations, people, or things among a number of possibilities.
There are times when ~ and/or ~; sometimes ~ and sometimes ~; sometimes do things like ~ and ~; some (people/etc.) ~ and some (people/etc.) ~
父は感情的な人ではないが、時に怒りもすれば泣きもする。
My father is not an emotional person, but there are times when he gets angry and times when he cries.
私だってロックも聞けばダンスもする。
Even I sometimes (do things like) listen to rock music and dance.
寿司が好きな人もいれば、嫌いな人もいます。
There are people who like sushi and people who don't like it.
This sentence structure is used to present some members in a group, things in a category, actions someone takes, characteristics of something/someone, etc., among others. Although the form of the verb here is conditional, the meaning is not conditional in this usage. The structure "N1もV-plainし、N2もV" is similar in meaning.
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Is this the same pattern or am I mistaking this for another form that's on renshuu? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the description.
～もVば～もV (A. 258)
A structure used to present typical examples of actions, events, situations, people, or things among a number of possibilities.
There are times when ~ and/or ~; sometimes ~ and sometimes ~; sometimes do things like ~ and ~; some (people/etc.) ~ and some (people/etc.) ~
父は感情的な人ではないが、時に怒りもすれば泣きもする。
My father is not an emotional person, but there are times when he gets angry and times when he cries.
私だってロックも聞けばダンスもする。
Even I sometimes (do things like) listen to rock music and dance.
寿司が好きな人もいれば、嫌いな人もいます。
There are people who like sushi and people who don't like it.
This sentence structure is used to present some members in a group, things in a category, actions someone takes, characteristics of something/someone, etc., among others. Although the form of the verb here is conditional, the meaning is not conditional in this usage. The structure "N1もV-plainし、N2もV" is similar in meaning.
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Is this the same pattern or am I mistaking this for another form that's on renshuu? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the description.
