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From the standpoint of A; according to A; as far as A is concerned
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              ない  
He's not a problem at all at work.
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       ルール          
In society, it is common sense to follow the rules.
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         いい   として          
From the perspective of the company, I think I am working as a good employee.

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アナウンサーでは (According to the announcer)

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How is this different from によると?
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12 years ago
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As I understand it, this one sets a viewpoint or position for observing something, whereas によると specifies a source for information.

Does that help at all?
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12 years ago (Edited 12 years ago.)
guest
So after reading your reply and looking at the examples, によると is more for people (ie: According to John...) and this one is more for everything else?
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12 years ago
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The によると can be other sources: for example, a newspaper, tv, a weather report, the radio, an ad flyer. 'According to' is a very good way to think of it. You are restating information/report that you got from that source.

のうえで can also mean this and function in the same way. However, it can *also* refer to a standpoint from which to consider something.

のうえで < As far as class is concerned (Considering class...)

So I'd say that によると is the same as *one* of the meanings of のうえで.
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12 years ago
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This also works with the dictionary form of verbs
するで as far as living in a foreign country is concerned
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4 years ago



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