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Even if A is attempted/thought about; A can't be done (there is no way to A)
B is the negative potential form of A.
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I hurt my leg, so I can't walk even if I wanted to.

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Construction
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AVerb: Volitional
BVerb: Negative potential form
Basic Examples:
おうにもえない (can't smile even if (I) tried)

AVerb: Dictionary Form
BVerb: Negative potential form
Basic Examples:
にもけない (there's no way to walk)

AVerb: Dictionary Form
BVerb: Negative potential form
AVerb: Dictionary Form
BVerb: Negative ず
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mysticfive
Level: 1611
this can also be used with the first verb in dictionary form (as opposed to volitional), but I think the second has to be in the negative potential (not plain negative) - るにもれない etc.
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13 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 262
Confirmed and updated!
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13 years ago
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れんこつばん
Level: 358

Not sure if this grammar construct is part of this or has its own page, but マスター N1 also lists ~に~ない together with~(よ)うにも~ない, as in:

れて、ないだ。

Also groups together ~に~ず, as in:

をたくさんもらったが、べきれない。てるてられっている。

Again, sorry if this is the wrong page, I just couldn't find a page for ~に~ない and my book lists this together with (よ)うにも~ない

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2 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 262

Thanks, added them!

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2 years ago
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