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B, let alone A; B, not to mention A
Shows that not only B is true, but A is also true. B is the stronger of the two examples.
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Let alone talk, she couldn't even catch her breath (breathe fully).
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My older brother won't even clean up his own room, let alone help around the house.
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My pain is really bad and I cannot stand up, not to mention walk around.
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ANoun
おろか
BNoun
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めない (can't read kana, let alone kanji)

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mysticfive
Level: 2025
two things - first, shouldn't this pattern be はおろか (no う)?
And if that's the case, the meaning should be more 'not to mention A,' or 'let alone A' (ie 1ドルはおろか1セントもっていない I don't have a cent , let alone a dollar)
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 301
That description nails it more precisely, thanks. I updated the ひらがな and the meaning; let me know if you feel like the meaning could be improved upon any more!
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15 years ago
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tensaimon
Level: 1
the order seems reversed between English and Japanese (isn't everything??) so to help myself remember I'm using "let alone a dollar, I don't even have a cent" which whilst somewhat idiomatic in English has the advantage of keeping the Japanese sentence order
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11 years ago
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stardust_737
Level: 320

"Shows that not only B is true, but A (which is less desirable) is also true."

I think this is false that A is less desirable. In the provided example, "はおろかかなもめない" it's obvious that when you're saying "let alone kanji, I can't even read kana," reading kana is the minimum standard that is failed and reading kanji is not even in the question.

Here, the (B) part of the sentence being the minimum standard which makes (A) not even worth asking implies that (B) is less desirable. It is less desirable to "not even be able to read kana" than to merely not be able to read kanji, which is not even worth mentioning if you can't read kana.

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7 months ago
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マイコー
Level: 301

You are completely right - It might have been me flipping the B/A in my head when writing the original text. Updating it now!

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7 months ago
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