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At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  1. At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
    Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  2. One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
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              して         
I want to help ease her sickness to some extent.
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I'll be happy if I can help you (the teacher) even a little bit.
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なりとも
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One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
  1. At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
    Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  2. One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
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               がって    
Please eat one of the things here.
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If it's alright, please look at one of my works.
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ANoun
なりとも
BNoun
なりとも
Basic Examples:
なりともオレンジなり (apples, oranges...)

なりとも
Basic Examples:
なりげましょう (let's give him something)

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in this usage, the nounなりともnounなりとも is for the most part an outdated usage, however なりとも is still somewhat in use.
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mysticfive
Level: 2026
Similar to the でも meaning of "or something".
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mysticfive
Level: 2026
I'm getting a different meaning here - my says: にもっとなものがあるかもしれないが,えばというちをめて,あるする。でも。 So it looks to me more like it's giving an example - one of the sentences they have in here comes from kyogen - せめてなりともみたい
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マイコー
Level: 301
What do you make of this sentence:
については、なりともっています。
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mysticfive
Level: 2026
so maybe there are two different usages... something to look into
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mysticfive
Level: 2026
ok it looks to me that a better meaning for this might be along the lines of 'at least' - so your example above would be 'I know at least a little about kabuki,' and the one from the kyogen I found would be 'I want to at least drink some sake' - how does that sound?
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マイコー
Level: 301
Had a talk with a teacher about this: she didn't quite agree with the 'at least' bit of it. Although she claimed herself that she wasn't 100% sure on how to describe it, she said it did not necessarily hold the connotation of 'although this amount will work, it's a minimum (and more would be ideal)'. Going by our そうまとめ book, the second example 'わせていただけないでしょうか?' is stating that the speaker would be satisfied with 'just a short meeting', and that they are not saying 'I would like to meet for longer, but I'll survive with this shorter time'.

I'm still at a bit of a loss as to what to put for a clearer definition. Did you remember the name of that Japanese grammar dictionary (for Japanese people) by chance?
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emmy
Level: 3
Mysticfive is probably right, I think there are two usages of なりとも. なりとも () 〔「なり」に「とも」のいたものから。からにかけていられる〕またはずるもの、いたもの、などにく。 (1)にもっとなものがあるかもしれないが、えばというちをめて、あるする。でも。 「せめてみたい/」「さあ、そつと―いてよ/」 (2)(「…なりとも…なりとも」ので)としてげたで、どれかつをぶというす。 「し―、し―いたさう/」 〔では、「なんなりとも」などのにはあまりいられない。「なん―げましょう」〕 I think another good way to think about it is like in the example: 1なりとも使ってはだめだ = You mustn't waste a single penny OR なにかしいはないか? なんなりともわすぞ As in: であろうと。でも。 ―おさい
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マイコー
Level: 301
Thank to your notes (both of you) and some additional research on my end, I have been able to confirm and update the page with more accurate (two) entries.
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