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At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  1. At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
    Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  2. One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
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彼 女 の 病 気 を 多 少 な り と も 楽 に して 遣 り た い ん で す 。 
I want to help ease her sickness to some extent.
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多 少 な り と も 先 生 の 御 力 に な れ れ ば 幸 い で す 。 
I'll be happy if I can help you (the teacher) even a little bit.
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なりとも
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One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
  1. At least (a little bit) of A (usually a small amount)
    Implies that more would be preferred/ideal, but hopes for at least A
  2. One of A (used for showing one example out of a set/group)
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此処 に 有 る 物 は 何 成 り と も 召 し 上 がって 下 さ い 
Please eat one of the things here.
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多 少 な り と も 寄 付 し て 頂 け ま せ ん か ？ 
If it's alright, please look at one of my works.
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ANoun
なりとも
BNoun
なりとも
Basic Examples:
林檎なりともオレンジなり共 (apples, oranges...)

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なりとも
Basic Examples:
何なりと差し上げましょう (let's give him something)

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in this usage, the nounなりともnounなりとも is for the most part an outdated usage, however 何なりとも is still somewhat in use.
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mysticfive
Level: 2449
Similar to the でも meaning of "or something".
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Emanny
Level: 331

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mysticfive
Level: 2449
I'm getting a different meaning here - my 電子辞書 says: 他にもっと適当なものがあるかもしれないが，例えばという気持ちを込めて，ある事柄を例示する。でも。 So it looks to me more like it's giving an example - one of the sentences they have in here comes from kyogen - せめて酒なりとも飲みたい
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
What do you make of this sentence:
歌舞伎については、多少なりとも知っています。
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16 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2449
so maybe there are two different usages... something to look into
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16 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2449
ok it looks to me that a better meaning for this might be along the lines of 'at least' - so your example above would be 'I know at least a little about kabuki,' and the one from the kyogen I found would be 'I want to at least drink some sake' - how does that sound?
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Had a talk with a teacher about this: she didn't quite agree with the 'at least' bit of it. Although she claimed herself that she wasn't 100% sure on how to describe it, she said it did not necessarily hold the connotation of 'although this amount will work, it's a minimum (and more would be ideal)'. Going by our そうまとめ book, the second example '一目会わせていただけないでしょうか？' is stating that the speaker would be satisfied with 'just a short meeting', and that they are not saying 'I would like to meet for longer, but I'll survive with this shorter time'.

I'm still at a bit of a loss as to what to put for a clearer definition. Did you remember the name of that Japanese grammar dictionary (for Japanese people) by chance?
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15 years ago
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emmy
Level: 3
Mysticfive is probably right, I think there are two usages of なりとも. なりとも （副助） 〔断定の助動詞「なり」に接続助詞「とも」の付いたものから。中世末から近世にかけて多く用いられる〕体言または体言に準ずるもの、体言に格助詞の付いたもの、副詞などに付く。 (1)他にもっと適当なものがあるかもしれないが、例えばという気持ちを込めて、ある事柄を例示する。でも。 「せめて酒―飲みたい/狂言・樽聟」「さあ、そつと―此銀へ手を指いて見よ/歌舞伎・壬生大念仏」 (2)（「…なりとも…なりとも」の形で）例として並べ挙げた中で、どれか一つを選ぶという意を表す。 「腕押し―、脛押し―いたさう/狂言・連尺」 〔現代語では、「なんなりとも」などの慣用的な言い方以外にはあまり用いられない。「なん―差し上げましょう」〕 I think another good way to think about it is like in the example: 1円なりとも無駄に使ってはだめだ = You mustn't waste a single penny OR なにか欲しい物はないか？ なんなりとも遣わすぞ As in: 何であろうと。何でも。 ―お申し付け下さい
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Thank to your notes (both of you) and some additional research on my end, I have been able to confirm and update the page with more accurate (two) entries.
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15 years ago


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