I'm getting a different meaning here - my 電子辞書 says: 他にもっと適当なものがあるかもしれないが,例えばという気持ちを込めて,ある事柄を例示する。でも。 So it looks to me more like it's giving an example - one of the sentences they have in here comes from kyogen - せめて酒なりとも飲みたい
ok it looks to me that a better meaning for this might be along the lines of 'at least' - so your example above would be 'I know at least a little about kabuki,' and the one from the kyogen I found would be 'I want to at least drink some sake' - how does that sound?
Had a talk with a teacher about this: she didn't quite agree with the 'at least' bit of it. Although she claimed herself that she wasn't 100% sure on how to describe it, she said it did not necessarily hold the connotation of 'although this amount will work, it's a minimum (and more would be ideal)'. Going by our そうまとめ book, the second example '一目会わせていただけないでしょうか?' is stating that the speaker would be satisfied with 'just a short meeting', and that they are not saying 'I would like to meet for longer, but I'll survive with this shorter time'.
I'm still at a bit of a loss as to what to put for a clearer definition. Did you remember the name of that Japanese grammar dictionary (for Japanese people) by chance?
Mysticfive is probably right, I think there are two usages of なりとも.
なりとも
(副助)
〔断定の助動詞「なり」に接続助詞「とも」の付いたものから。中世末から近世にかけて多く用いられる〕体言または体言に準ずるもの、体言に格助詞の付いたもの、副詞などに付く。
(1)他にもっと適当なものがあるかもしれないが、例えばという気持ちを込めて、ある事柄を例示する。でも。
「せめて酒―飲みたい/狂言・樽聟」「さあ、そつと―此銀へ手を指いて見よ/歌舞伎・壬生大念仏」
(2)(「…なりとも…なりとも」の形で)例として並べ挙げた中で、どれか一つを選ぶという意を表す。
「腕押し―、脛押し―いたさう/狂言・連尺」
〔現代語では、「なんなりとも」などの慣用的な言い方以外にはあまり用いられない。「なん―差し上げましょう」〕
I think another good way to think about it is like in the example: 1円なりとも無駄に使ってはだめだ = You mustn't waste a single penny OR なにか欲しい物はないか? なんなりとも遣わすぞ
As in:
何であろうと。何でも。
―お申し付け下さい
Thank to your notes (both of you) and some additional research on my end, I have been able to confirm and update the page with more accurate (two) entries.
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