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When A is thought about, B soon comes to mind
Often used for citing an example B when discussing A.
  1. When A is thought about, B soon comes to mind
    Often used for citing an example B when discussing A.
  2. Although A is expected, in reality, it's B
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The fastest land animal... that's a cheetah, right?
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       といったら  寿    ない      
If you're looking for a representation of Japanese cooking, surely there's nothing better than sushi?
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              といったら        
When I think about the most famous sightseeing place in Japan, Kyoto comes to mind.
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         やっぱり みとこうもん       
Speaking of historical plays, apparently Mitokomon is interesting.

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Stupie
Level: 87
(9 months ago)

N ဆိုရင် —- တွဲမြင် (ကိုယ်စားပြု)

  • ပုသိမ်ဆိုရင် ဟာလဝါ ကို တွဲမြင်
  • မန်းလေးဆိုရင် ထိုးမုန့်ကို ပြေးမြင်
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れんこつばん
Level: 358
(3 years ago)
My grammar book マスターN2 also lists this usage:
 +といった+
It is used to list off examples of something, as in this example:
わたしはケーキ、ポテトチップス、ハンバーガーといったカロリーのいものがきなんです。
I love high-calorie foods like cake, potato chips, and hamburgers.
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(5 years ago)
In informal speech, といえば and といったら can be shortened to ってば and ったら respectively.
This is only used to show exasperation, though.
Here's an example:
もうくってば! = Ugh! I told you I'm going already!
ったら、れっぽいんだから! = Ugh! You're pretty forgetful (you know that?).
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Level: 1
(14 years ago)
You can also use そうえば to start a sentence when someone triggers your memory.

Example:

A: ああ、しみだな!
(A: Ah, I'm looking forward to tomorrow!)
B: そうえば、ホテルのをしたの?
(B: Speaking of which, did you make the hotel reservations?)
A: やべっ、れちゃった。
(A: Damn, I forgot.)
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Although A is expected, in reality, it's B
  1. When A is thought about, B soon comes to mind
    Often used for citing an example B when discussing A.
  2. Although A is expected, in reality, it's B
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これ                   ない      
Although I expected this to be a big hit, it really isn't that popular.

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ANoun ったら
 
AThought えば
 
AThought うと
 
AThought ったら
 
 
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れんこつばん
Level: 358
(3 years ago)
My grammar book マスターN2 also lists this usage:
(ナ(だ)・(だ)) +とはいいながら
It is used to list off examples of something, as in this example:
わたしはだとはいいながら、たちにえられることのい。
Although I am a teacher, I am often the one being taught by my students.
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
I thought that といったら is used to express how surprising or shocking something is. Maybe it should have its own page for that meaning as it seems a bit different than the ones listed here.
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 265
Do you have a reference for that? I'm a bit short on my grammar materials at the moment.
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14 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Well my マスター book says the definition is き・はずれの(プラス、マイナスの)をす. My ALC grammar dictionary also says いたり、あきれたり、したりなどのって、にするときに使う.
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 265
Well, I think it still fits in with the first definition - it could be expanded a bit to show this additional information. Let me ask you this - can you find anything that states といえば and というと (still looking at first meaning) do not hold that additional nuance? If so, something will need to be done to separate them out.

Edit: The more I look at it, the more I feel there needs to be a bit more clarification on this page.Here's kinda what I'm getting - will check with a native speaker when I get a chance (and I encourage you to do the same)

といえば: used to introduce a topic for discussion

というと/といったら: second definition on this page

といったら: what you've got there.

See if you can get any info from your peers at work, and let's work on cleaning this up!
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ちゃん
Level: 1
My grammar dictionary says that といえば is used to introduce a topic from what has previously been said, while in というと a memory has been evoked, and thus mentioning what follows after it.

Also, I think the first definition is more like といっても, at least according to my dictionary...
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12 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
I completely forgot about this...
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12 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 265
My mega grammar dictionary doesn't have といったら!!

More info:
えば: used to introduce a topic and follow it up additional info

というと・といえば: (def #2) - when A is said/though of, B comes to mind

I think I will probably need to split the page - but I still feel the information isn't fleshed out. It is pre-test time at the schools so I think the teachers will be busy, but ..definitely need to get some confirmation on this.


..I cannot wait until the new forums are finished and these posts are much easier to find.
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12 years ago
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Feade
Level: 3
I found a rather interesting sentence in my grammar book. 「なんです。」「というと?」 How would you translate that 「というと?」?
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11 years ago
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できるだけ
Level: 28
I would say "Which means...?" - essentially, they're saying "What are you getting at?"
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