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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
V-よう と 為する 
1. Be about to A; Try to A
母 は そ ろ そ ろ 寝 よ う と 為 て 居 る 。 
Mom is about to go to sleep.
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Diamondrock
Level: 1
Mysteriously enough, the main grammar page shows that this grammar point has a model sentence, but it's not actually found on this page.
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17 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Fixed!
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17 years ago
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宮本勝利
Level: 1
For some reason, the title of this thread is popping up as ようと為る.

Edit: I just looked it up in my dictionary, and apparently the verb する really does have this kanji, but I have never seen it used even in literature.
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17 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Yea - I knew a few kanji like this were going to show up. Fixed this term (する), but let me know if you see it happening with other pages. Thanks!
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17 years ago
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秋子ちゃん
Level: 1
Is this used most often in the past tense, as in "was about to"? In contrast with ところ that is.
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16 years ago
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dajkalaszlo20
Level: 1
Nice site! Thank you for making it possible:) I have just came across this grammar in a sentence in a novel by Yoshimoto Banana. But I cannot get the sense of this structure with the verb 思う. The sentence is like the following 'だからこれは酔って見ている悪夢の続きだと思おうとした。' Can I translate it literally? Like "I tried/was about to think about..." or "I was about to think that..."?
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12 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
That would be my guess, but I imagine it might become a bit easier to decipher with the following sentences. If the subject was about to think something like you're guessing, I'd think something might come up next that would make them think otherwise.
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12 years ago
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Dabas
Level: 17
What is the difference between ようにする and ようとする? They both seem to mean "try to A", but I do not understand the difference
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9 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
ようとする focuses on the timing aspect, that is, something is about to happen. Often used to contrast it with something that starts afterwards (and stops whatever action was going to take place).
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9 years ago
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VorpalPlayer
Level: 1898
Pet peeve here. This よう reads the same as ようになる. However, it's not よう, it's the Volitional Form of the verb. The way the definition is presented is confusing, and I keep missing these grammar questions because I am looking for よう, not the volitional form.
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9 years ago
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Posad
Level: 1

Re-upping on what VorpalPlayer said, this should really be marked as とする or maybe V-とする. Too easily confused with the actual use of よう.

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7 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

I must have missed that when it was first posted! Just updated the name on the page. Thanks for pointing it out.

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7 years ago
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|マルコ|
Level: 110

can I suggest changing the "(About to) try to A" part of the meaning into "try to A" ?
The reason being that the "Be about to A;" meaning already shows that usage so the "(About to)" in parenthesis in the second meaning seems redundant, and also the example sentence below in which "tried to" fits better than "about to try to"

ゴミ、捨てようと為たけど、塵箱が一杯だったよ。
I tried to throw away the trash, but the trash can was full.

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5 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

Done!

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5 years ago
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stupidguy
Level: 185

related grammar:

ようとしている "Shows change/movement A is about to start/end" https://www.renshuu.org/grammar/674/ようとしている

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4 years ago
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野良犬
Level: 109

I must have missed that when it was first posted! Just updated the name on the page. Thanks for pointing it out.

It still reads as "V-ようとする" for me, shouldn't it be "V-とする" or "V(vol.)-とする"? I get very confused by this (maybe it's just me), but I've known this expression for years and now I keep using it wrongly, because I keep thinking I should be using よう : /

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2 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

My hope (not everyone is going to know "vol", but I am pretty sure that using the conjugation as a suffix (ます、ない、よう) is at least somewhat common on other sites as well.

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2 years ago
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emanresU
Level: 389

Why is this on the quiz for the lesson on ようにする and ようになる? I don't think this usage showed up in that lesson

(Edit: it seems like this one and ようにする got mixed up, since that shows up after the lesson on this one)

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1 year ago
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