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じゃ is a casual form of では
  1. じゃ is a casual form of では
  2. ちゃ is a casual form of ては
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サム      だめ  
Sam, don't you leave me.
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いや  それじゃ だめ       ように    ごらん  
No, that's not the right way. You have to turn it the other way round.
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                   だめ なんだ   
I have chubby fingers, so I can't use a small keyboard.

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Statements of prohibition are often shortened using this form in casual speech.

    だめ  (correct)

You can't die!

    だめ  (correct)

You can't die!

It's also used often with the conjunction では or それでは

          (correct)

Well then, I'm going.

          (correct)

Well, I'm off!

It is can also be used when では is part of a negative (ではない or ではありません)

        ない  (correct)

I'm not well today.

           (correct)

I'm not well today.
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ちゃ is a casual form of ては
  1. じゃ is a casual form of では
  2. ちゃ is a casual form of ては
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すぐに       なくちゃ  
We must contact the police at once.
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         しなくちゃ いけない            
I need to find a partner because we have to do a skit in class.
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    しちゃ いけない  
You can't trust him.
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      なくちゃ  
I have to prepare for the test.
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それ     なくちゃ だめ    
It needs to be repaired.

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Common usages
Statements of prohibition are often shortened using this form in casual speech.

        いけない  (polite)

You can't talk during class.

      ちゃ いけない  (casual)

You can't talk during class.

それ      だめ  (polite)

You can't eat that!

それ    ちゃ だめ  (casual)

You can't eat that!

It is also commonly used alongside another abbreviation when describing something you must do.

               (polite)

I have to study tonight!

           (correct)

I've gotta study tonight!
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onlyforyou
Level: 1
Will there be model sentences up for the first grammar point any time soon? Or how can I nominate sentences for that?
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マイコー
Level: 292
Model sentences might not be ideal for this page. I think it'd probably be better to list a few examples in the usage page, showing the before->after so it's easier to see the transition (sentences can't be 'paired' in the model sentences tab).

Can you help think of the different times that this can be used?

(prohibition)
てはいけない > ちゃいけない (or だめ in place of いけない)
ではいけない >じゃいけない (or だめ in place of いけない)

ではない > じゃない
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onlyforyou
Level: 1
A few examples works fine too. What I meant to ask was if there was going to be something other than user sentences to look at for this one. I'm not too familiar with this grammar point so I kind of had to stare at it for a bit before it clicked ^^;;
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マイコー
Level: 292
I've added a bunch! Take a look at it, and please rate the meanings (with the stars) if you like them! Thanks!
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onlyforyou
Level: 1
Went ahead and rated. Thanks again, these were LOADS of help.
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looh
Level: 19
I have a question.

In the lyrics for the song Hare Hare Yukai, there is a line which goes:
しがっちゃずかしいよなんてね~わせて!

I stumbled here trying to figure out what しがっちゃ meant. I don't believe it's the same conjugation, but can somebody help me out?
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マイコー
Level: 292
しがる > しがってしまう > しがっちゃう ..I'm wondering if it's a contraction/slang on that - it's a bit hard to deduce the meaning without a bit more context (for me, at least), but hope that helps some.
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tanhute
Level: 1
This helps me much. ありがとうございます!
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|マルコ|
Level: 110

just a very minor thing, but the title is missing the ~ symbol before ちゃ

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マイコー
Level: 292

Fixed!

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3 years ago
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