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Even considering we lost today, it wasn't because your effort was lacking.
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Even given that they said that, you don't know if it is what they really think, right?
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Where this grammar is found
Similar to としても、but with informal use
Aという立 場 や条 件 でもB Aには立 場 や条 件 を表 す文 が来 る。 Bには「無 駄 だ、意 味 がない、変 わらない」といった否 定 的 な内 容 が来 る。話 し言 葉 では「~にしたって」となる。
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according to the resouces I'm using, you can use any part of speech with any of these (athough the example sentences listed are both with verbs - これは忘 れようとしたところで忘 れられない出 来 事 だ。 and 今 から急 いだとしたって間 に合 わないだろう。)
Do you think that's referring to the same meaning - I could see the sentences you gave as fitting into the meaning on this page, but it feels like a bit of a stretch.
hmm you're right, probably a different usage entirely
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