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A is acceptable; A would be better/worse
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ラ ン チ に 1000 円 な ら 未 だ し も 3000 円 は 高 い で し ょ う 。 
1000 yen for lunch would be OK, but 3000 yen is pricey.
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彼 は 一 度 な ら 未 だ し も 、 何 度 も 同 じ ミ ス を 為 て 居 る 。 
I could accept if it happened once, but he's made the same mistake numerous times.
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まだしも
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seems interchangable with ならともかく
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mysticfive
Level: 2445
my 電子辞書 is giving me a different meaning; saying that B is better than A - one of the example sentences is 雨ならば,未だしも雪の方がありがたい。
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
私の英語力では、旅行はまだしも、留学なんて無理だ。
With my English ability I can handle travelling, but studying abroad would be impossible.

Also: http://nihongoden.blogspot.com/2009/11/grammar-day-level-1-madashimo.html

While the definition I have/had is a bit restrictive, I think it's on the right path. With the sentence you gave, I read that as "While it'd be alright if it rains, snow would be better (I'd be more grateful for snow)."
I don't think the 'would be better' piece necessarily is tied into this grammar as a requisite (just a possible usage).

What do you think?
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16 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2445
not sure - really confused by the whole thing now :-P
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16 years ago
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Level: 1
A is acceptable, but B would be‾ (better/worse)
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Guest: any examples of the 'worse' situation?
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15 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
Maybe this helps:

そんな屈辱に甘んじるくらいなら, まだしも死んだ方がいい.
I would rather [sooner] die than take such an insult lying down.

まだしもこの方がいい. This would be better.

なくした金が僕のだったからまだしもよかった.
If it hadn't been my own money that I lost, it'd have been even worse.

Source: excite.co.jp


1人や2人ならまだしも,10人も事務所へ押し掛けて来て参った
I could have handled [coped with] one or two of them, but I was flabbergasted when ten people pushed their way into my office.

寒いだけならまだしも,おなかがすいてきた
I was not only cold but also hungry./I would not have minded the cold so much, but I also began to feel hungry.

古いほうならまだしも,なくしたのは新しい帽子なんだ
If I had lost my old hat, it would not have mattered so much, but it was the new one that I lost.

Source: http://ocndictionary.goo.ne.jp/
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15 years ago
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Level: 1
I think a good translation of まだしもis "In the case of A, it would have been fine, but..." or "a little bit of A is acceptable, but..." =) If that helps anyone.
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15 years ago


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