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If only A/B, then C
B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  1. If only A/B, then C
    B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  2. If only A occurs, then B
    A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
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後 500 円 さ え 有 れ ば 此 の ゾ ン ビ の コ ス チ ュ ー ム を 買 え ま す 。 
If I only had 500 more yen, I could buy this zombie costume.
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彼 の 最 後 の 問 題 さ え 正 解 為 れ ば 、 合 格 で き た の に 。 
I would have passed if only I had gotten that last question correct.
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骨 さ え 覚 え れ ば 、 朝 飯 前 で す よ 。 
It's a snap once you get the hang of it.
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席 を 確 保 為 る に は 列 に 並 び さ え 為 れ ば い い 。 
All you have to do to secure a seat is to wait in line.
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中野なかの君 の 怪 我 さ え 治 れ ば 、 南 高 に は 絶 対 負 け な い ! 
If only Nakano's injury would heal, we'll definitely not lose to South High!
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頭 痛 さ え 無 け れ ば 行 く の だ が 。 
I would go except for my headache.
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ANoun さえ BVerb: ~ば (Conditional)
 
ANoun さえ Bい-adjective: ければ form
 
ANoun さえ Bな-adjective: なら form
 
ANoun さえ BNoun なら
 
 
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Grammar usage notes

For the Noun さえ Verb/ば form, the さえ is usually replacing a direct object を marker.

本さえ読めば - if only I read the book
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マイコー
Level: 346
Adding that for verbs, in addition to the さえ verb-ば pattern, there are also:

verb stem さえすれば
- ex: 薬を飲みさえすれば、すぐに治せるはずです。(As long as you take the medicine, you should get well quickly.)

te-form さえいれば
ex: きちんと勉強してさえいれば、成功できます。(As long as you study properly, you will succeed.)

As far as I understand, these forms are interchangeable.
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denniszhang96
Level: 245
Aだけで十分だ
(他は必要じゃない、大切じゃない)
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リンク・リンク
Level: 1524

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If only A occurs, then B
A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
  1. If only A/B, then C
    B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  2. If only A occurs, then B
    A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
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毎 日 20 分 運 動 さ え す れ ば 屹 度 健 康 に な る よ 。 
If you only exercise twenty minutes a day, I'm sure you'll be healthy.
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十 秒 考 え さ え す れ ば 此 の 問 い を 理 解 出 来 る は ず だ 。 
You should be able to understand this problem if you only think for 10 seconds.
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其 の お 金 が 無 事 だ と 分 か り さ え 為 れ ば 、 其 の 事 は 心 配 し な い 。 
As long as I know the money is safe, I will not worry about it.
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其 の 事 故 が ど ん な に 重 大 で あ っ た か は 、 此 の 記 事 を 読 み さ え 為 れ ば 良 い 。 
You have only to read this article to see how serious the accident was.
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汚 し さ え 為 な け れ ば 本 を 家 に 持 っ て 帰 っ て も 良 い 。 
You may take the book home so long as you don't get it dirty.
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此 の 薬 を 飲 み さ え す れ ば 、 病 気 は 直 ぐ 治 る だ ろ う 。 
If only you would take this medicine, your sickness will surely get better soon.
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Construction
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AVerb: Stem さえ すれば
 
Aな-adjective に/でさえ あれば
 
Aい-adjective -い く さえ あれば
 
ANoun で さえ あれば
 
AVerb: て-form さえ いれば
 
 
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Grammar usage notes

機能:条件(唯一)

形:

1。(N+いAければ、____。)→Nさえ いAければ、____。

2。(N/なA+なら、____。)→N/なA+でさえあれば、____。

3。(N+Vば、____。)→NさえVば、____。

4。(Vば、____。)→V(ーます)さえすれば、____。

5。(Vていれば、____。)→Vてさえいれば、____。

意味:____という条件を満たしていれば、____。(他に条件はない)。
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猛眼
Level: 1654

Questions/Discussion

I see there's comments about it in the archived discussion section, but I still don't really get the difference between meanings 1 and 2 here...
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emanresU
Level: 389
They are the same in general meaning. However, the structure is different enough that putting all of those usage patterns in a single entry would be more confusing than separating them out.

In the first meaning, we have a noun, and we're applying some condition to it.

With the second meaning, it's more about the condition of the first thing. Or put another way, whether or not the first thing (whether it is a noun, an adjective, or a verb) exists or not.

This is usually used when the thing it is referring to is *understood* or mentioned earlier.

So with meaning 1, we have
リンゴさえやすければ (if only the apples are cheap)
There is a clear topic/subject (noun) that the conditional "cheap" is pointing to.

With meaning 2:
リンゴさえあれば (If only there are apples)
Here, we're not actually talking about apples. The topic is something else, perhaps wanting to make a dessert.

But again, the whole "this is the last thing needed for the following clause to happen" is the same for both. Just a different structure.
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マイコー
Level: 346

Discussion about this grammar
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Is there a difference between these two? They seem very similar aside from the use of a noun or a verb. I have two grammar books and the definitions in those books seem fairly different from each other so I'm not quite getting this grammar point.

Also, い-adjectives are base + くさえあれば and な-adjectives are base + でさえあれば. The Kanzen Master book also shows なければ forms for the adjectives as well.

According to the same book, nouns can also take these forms:
名詞 + さえ + 動詞-ば
名詞 + さえ + い-ければ
名詞 + さえ + な-なら
名詞 + さえ + 名詞+なら
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17 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
There's a construction difference. The meaning is basically the same from what I understand.

I added the additional constructions, but I'm going to leave the two separated for now because the constructions are so different: the first set of usages involve 3 elements (A,B,C), whereas the second involves only 2. At some point in the future, I'll need to create a more complex explanation similar to pages like ている or たい.
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17 years ago
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up and updating the page.
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17 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
Update on the second meaning:

I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ
Noun + さえ
Noun + でさえ

1. 食べ物がなくなれば、人間はネズミさえ食べる。
2. あんなに優秀な人でさえ合格できなかったんですよ。 (Unicom)
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Thanks, added!
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
I think I mixed (my comment) up with this grammar point:
http://www.renshuu.org/index.php?page=grammar/individual&id=186

Because it's only Noun + さえ/でさえ, without the すれば following after
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
If I follow Unicom, it says for this grammar point (さえ‾ば) the construction should be:

ますstem form verb + さえすれば
Noun + さえ + ば form verb

I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえあれば
Na-adjective + で + さえあれば

(1) 資料を調べさえすれば、すぐ分かることです。
(2) 見かけが美しくさえあれば、内容はどうでもいいと言うんですか。
(3) 健康でさえあれば、はかには何も望まない。
(4) 試験さえ済めば、いつでも旅行に行ける。
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Should "I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ" go onto the other page?
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
Hmm, I'm not really sure anymore. Because in the grammar book under ‾(で)さえ it says the formation is
ますstem form verb + さえすれば
I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ
Noun + さえ
Noun + でさえ
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Alright, I've cleaned up both this page and the other one you referenced - everything should be good now. It looks like the grammar book you're using blends the two, although I really feel like the two pages should be separate. This one focuses on 'if only', while the other one focus on 'even' (a stronger form of も/でも/にも)
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
You're right. ^^
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16 years ago
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mireille
Level: 1
In the new grammar book by Unicom (Bun no Rule) the construction has slightly changed. It's now:

ますstem form verb + さえ‾ば
い adjective (-い) + く+ さえ‾ば
な adjective + に + さえ‾ば
Noun + さえ‾ば
な adjective / Noun + でさえあれば
て form verb + さえいれば

親は子供が元気で丈夫にさえ育てば、他には何も望まないものだよね。
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16 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346
Added them!
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16 years ago


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