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If only A/B, then C
B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  1. If only A/B, then C
    B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  2. If only A occurs, then B
    A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
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     あれば この                 
If I only had 500 more yen, I could buy this zombie costume.
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あの          すれば          
I would have passed if only I had gotten that last question correct.

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ANoun さえ BVerb: ~ば (Conditional)
 
ANoun さえ Bい-adjective: ければ form
 
ANoun さえ Bな-adjective: なら form
 
ANoun さえ BNoun なら
 
 
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Stupie
Level: 86
(9 months ago)

さえ ~~ ば / さえ ~~ なら (သာ ~~ မယ်ဆိုရင်)

  • V နဲ့ い adj နဲ့ဆိုရင် ば/Noun နဲ့ な adj ဆိုရင် なら
    • ရေလေးသာ သောက်လိုက်ရရင်ကောင်းမှာပဲ
    • ငါးရာလေးသာရှိခဲ့မယ်ဆိုရင် အအေးဝယ်လို့ရမှာ
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マイコー
Level: 262
(14 years ago)
For the Noun さえ Verb/ば form, the さえ is usually replacing a direct object を marker.

さえめば - if only I read the book
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If only A occurs, then B
A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
  1. If only A/B, then C
    B is the last remaining condition for A before C becomes true/possible.
  2. If only A occurs, then B
    A is the only action/issue that needs to occur for B to be true/occur.
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  20         きっと        
If you only exercise twenty minutes a day, I'm sure you'll be healthy.
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         この      できる     
You should be able to understand this problem if you only think for 10 seconds.
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その             すれば  その こと        
As long as I know the money is safe, I will not worry about it.
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その                 この        すれば よい  
You have only to read this article to see how serious the accident was.

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AVerb: Stem さえ すれば
 
Aな-adjective に/でさえ あれば
 
Aい-adjective -い さえ あれば
 
ANoun さえ あれば
 
AVerb: て-form さえ いれば
 
 
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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
Is there a difference between these two? They seem very similar aside from the use of a noun or a verb. I have two grammar books and the definitions in those books seem fairly different from each other so I'm not quite getting this grammar point.

Also, い-adjectives are base + くさえあれば and な-adjectives are base + でさえあれば. The Kanzen Master book also shows なければ forms for the adjectives as well.

According to the same book, nouns can also take these forms:
 + さえ + -ば
 + さえ + い-ければ
 + さえ + な-なら
 + さえ + +なら
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マイコー
Level: 262
There's a construction difference. The meaning is basically the same from what I understand.

I added the additional constructions, but I'm going to leave the two separated for now because the constructions are so different: the first set of usages involve 3 elements (A,B,C), whereas the second involves only 2. At some point in the future, I'll need to create a more complex explanation similar to pages like ている or たい.
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fareastfurfaro
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Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up and updating the page.
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mireille
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Update on the second meaning:

I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ
Noun + さえ
Noun + でさえ

1. がなくなれば、はネズミさえべる。
2. あんなにでさえできなかったんですよ。 (Unicom)
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マイコー
Level: 262
Thanks, added!
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mireille
Level: 1
I think I mixed (my comment) up with this grammar point:
http://www.renshuu.org/index.php?page=grammar/individual&id=186

Because it's only Noun + さえ/でさえ, without the すれば following after
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mireille
Level: 1
If I follow Unicom, it says for this grammar point (さえ‾ば) the construction should be:

ますstem form verb + さえすれば
Noun + さえ + ば form verb

I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえあれば
Na-adjective + で + さえあれば

(1) 調べさえすれば、すぐかることです。
(2) かけがしくさえあれば、はどうでもいいとうんですか。
(3) でさえあれば、はかにはまない。
(4) さえめば、いつでもける。
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マイコー
Level: 262
Should "I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ" go onto the other page?
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mireille
Level: 1
Hmm, I'm not really sure anymore. Because in the grammar book under ‾(で)さえ it says the formation is
ますstem form verb + さえすれば
I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ
Noun + さえ
Noun + でさえ
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マイコー
Level: 262
Alright, I've cleaned up both this page and the other one you referenced - everything should be good now. It looks like the grammar book you're using blends the two, although I really feel like the two pages should be separate. This one focuses on 'if only', while the other one focus on 'even' (a stronger form of も/でも/にも)
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mireille
Level: 1
You're right. ^^
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mireille
Level: 1
In the new grammar book by Unicom (Bun no Rule) the construction has slightly changed. It's now:

ますstem form verb + さえ‾ば
い adjective (-い) + く+ さえ‾ば
な adjective + に + さえ‾ば
Noun + さえ‾ば
な adjective / Noun + でさえあれば
て form verb + さえいれば

にさえてば、にはまないものだよね。
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マイコー
Level: 262
Added them!
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