Is there a difference between these two? They seem very similar aside from the use of a noun or a verb. I have two grammar books and the definitions in those books seem fairly different from each other so I'm not quite getting this grammar point.
Also, い-adjectives are base + くさえあれば and な-adjectives are base + でさえあれば. The Kanzen Master book also shows なければ forms for the adjectives as well.
According to the same book, nouns can also take these forms: 名詞 ＋ さえ ＋ 動詞-ば 名詞 ＋ さえ ＋ い-ければ 名詞 ＋ さえ ＋ な-なら 名詞 ＋ さえ ＋ 名詞＋なら
There's a construction difference. The meaning is basically the same from what I understand.
I added the additional constructions, but I'm going to leave the two separated for now because the constructions are so different: the first set of usages involve 3 elements (A,B,C), whereas the second involves only 2. At some point in the future, I'll need to create a more complex explanation similar to pages like ている or たい.
Hmm, I'm not really sure anymore. Because in the grammar book under ‾(で)さえ it says the formation is ますstem form verb + さえすれば I-adjective stem (-い) + く+ さえ Noun + さえ Noun + でさえ
Alright, I've cleaned up both this page and the other one you referenced - everything should be good now. It looks like the grammar book you're using blends the two, although I really feel like the two pages should be separate. This one focuses on 'if only', while the other one focus on 'even' (a stronger form of も/でも/にも)
