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This has the same meaning as Aも, but さえ is stronger than も.
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この        さえ      ほど     
This question is so easy that even a child can answer it.
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  でさえ これ     から あなた  できなければ    
Even kids can read this so it'll be bad if you can't.
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この       さえ     
It's even hard to get a promotion at this company.
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   さえ           
I lied even to my girlfriend.
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     さえ     こと  なかった  
I haven't even had my parents get angry at me.

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emmy
Level: 3
(10 years ago)
でさえ「」のめるからJLPT N1したあなたができないのはおかしい・・・
Even preschoolers can read the kanji "" so if you, who's passed JLPT N1 can't, something's not right.
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レイナ
Level: 1
(10 years ago)
読めるから→ 読めるのだから makes it even a better sentence, although yours is also correct!
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emmy
Level: 3
(10 years ago)
I see what you mean. Thank you. Though it seems like I can't edit the sentence possibly because it has been marked as verified.
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Construction
(Elements in parentheses are optional.)
ANoun
で,に,と,へ
さえ
Basic Examples:
さえ (even a child)

Aい-adjective
-い
さえ
ある
Aな-adjective
さえ
ある
AVerb: て-form
さえ
Basic Examples:
さえ (even seeing)

Related Expressions
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From the discussions below:

The に and で are only used if the sentence without さえ had them originally. For example:

ったことがない。 (I haven't been to a foreign country)
にさえったことがない。(I haven't even been to a foreign country).

Same with で. With the regular ol' さえ, it often replaces を or が, like this:

ひらがながめない。 (I can't read hiragana)
ひらがなさえめない。(I can't even read hiragana)
1 year ago
avatar まことまじま - Level 417
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"さえ" Can in some cases be interchanged with "でも."

For example, "メールさえできない" (he/she can't even email) cannot be substituted with "でも."

On the other hand, "さえらないので,らないだろう" (if even the teachers don't know, then the students shouldn't either) can work with "でも." (でもらないので)

Additional, one should note this grammar pattern is implicative. To illustrate, the above example "メールさえできない" (he/she can't even email) works with the understanding that email is something fairly easy to do. In stating that a person can't even email, by implication, this person likely cannot do (or do well) email-related activities, such as using a computer, writing hand-written letters, or communicating with other people (email is akin to a basic social necessity in Japan).
11 years ago
avatar Avi Drucker - Level 3

Discussion about this grammar
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Years Studied: since 2000
Studying: のため、だから
Level: 959, : 5,017
I see a lot of sentences using the verb stem instead of the て-form with this - あなたはそのボタンをしさえすればい, and しさえすればよい, for example
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11 years ago (Edited 11 years ago.)
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Site admin
Level: 123, : 6,928
There is a different grammar page entry for that one. The way I see it, this page is for the form that closely resembles/replaces 'even', where as the さえ~ば is 'if only ...'.
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11 years ago
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Years Studied: 3
Studying: JLPT 3, university japanese exam
Level: 3, : 16
Can it be used with a negative? for example: しないでさえした。
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9 years ago
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Years Studied: 2
Studying: JLPT N3
Level: 1, : 9
The example sentence for the noun is missing a particle.
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8 years ago
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Level: 123, : 6,928
Alright - the explanation has been adjusted so the optional items are in grey.
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8 years ago
Level: 1, : 0

Is there an easy rule for when to use each particle? Choosing between に, で, or none is something I always second guess myself on.

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6 years ago
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Level: 123, : 6,928

The に and で are only used if the sentence without さえ had them originally. For example:


ったことがない。 (I haven't been to a foreign country)

にさえったことがない。(I haven't even been to a foreign country).


Same with で. With the regular ol' さえ, it often replaces を or が, like this:


ひらがながめない。 (I can't read hiragana)

ひらがなさえめない。(I can't even read hiragana)


This isn't a full answer, but hopefully it helps!

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6 years ago



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