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If A were the case; Supposing A
としたら is more casual than とすると and とすれば.
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ここ  ライオン      としたら どうしますか  
What would you do if you met a lion here?
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その         したら  どれだけ    かかる だろう   
How long would it take if you swim across the river?
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パーティー  する としたら               
Supposing that we have a party, we'd need a room that can hold ten people.
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テスト  ない としたら  これから  びに    のに   
I'd be able to go out and play after this if we didn't have a test..
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       としたら              
If it's the case that teacher is late, they can't be strict with the students.

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したら
Basic Examples:
いてとすれば (if you walked)

だとしたら (if that's true)

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fareastfurfaro
Level: 1
(13 years ago)
とすると is also valid, however, it does not appear to be used very often. The construction is the same as above.
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Years Studied: 2
Studying: For fun
Level: 1, : 35
Actually it's the same as "れば", isn't it?
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13 years ago
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Level: 140, : 7,149
Yea - extremely similar. I went ahead and added that (called 'Conditional' in the site) to the 'related grammar' . Thanks!
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13 years ago
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Grammar mod. Level: 1, : 505
とすれば and とすると are also valid uses though とすると doesn't appear to be all that common and doesn't even show up in one of my grammar books.

Nouns and い/な-adjectives can be used as well in their normal conjugations.

きいとしたら
だとしたら
ちだとしたら
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13 years ago (Edited 13 years ago.)
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Level: 140, : 7,149
Added the extra constructions - why don't you add in the thing about とすると as a usage note?
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13 years ago
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Grammar mod. Level: 1, : 505
OK, but please add the とすれば part, that is used quite often. I didn't add it because I was kind of hoping someone else would either agree or disagree with me but not too many people post on these things, do they?
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13 years ago
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I did add it under the 'variants' part - I forget now who it was I talked to when i came up with that -basically, I don't want to have a separate set of constructions for the とすれば because that would make the construction section much too large. But if you didn't notice the variants, then maybe that's not sufficiently noticeable, either.
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13 years ago
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Grammar mod. Level: 1, : 505
Ah...sorry, that was me you talked to about it too! I didn't notice it this time around though, so maybe we need to come up with something else...
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13 years ago
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Level: 140, : 7,149
I redid it - it should be fairly obvious now :)
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13 years ago
Level: 1, : 11
Does the "だ" in "i-adjective" construction is really necessary? Just for clarification.
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11 years ago
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Level: 140, : 7,149
No, it was a typo. Thanks!
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11 years ago
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Years Studied: 6
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A Japanese person explained to me that, when using this grammar point, とすれば tends to be used when the subject is a person (or a creature that has 'a will') and としたら is used if the subject has nothing to do with a creature's will. For example, いてくとすれば (if you walked) has a subject with a will and るとしたら (if it snows) has a subject with no will. Any thoughts?
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11 years ago
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Sorry, this comment slipped completely off my radar (something the new forums will fix!).

I have not found any hard info on this one way or another, but I did notice a very common (it seems) usage: だとすれば
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11 years ago
Years Studied: 4
Studying: JLPT N2
Level: 1, : 6
Ano.. sorry, a question ^^; So this one is basically used like "second conditional" in English? But then, what is the difference btwn these two? 「こるとしたら」and「こったとしたら」? the end of the sentence could be 「それはうちのだ」.. I took this sentence from a dorama XD thanks ^^; Or can it be used like a mixed conditional stuff? :D please help me ^^;
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10 years ago
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こったとしたら」 is much more natural. I think it's a similar situation to the phrase 「ほうがいい」...the verb that comes before it is almost always in the past tense (unless it's negative). Probably the only time that you might see 「こるとしたら」 is on a word problem on a test. You know, like those problems that start "If a plane flies east at 30 km/h for one hour..."
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10 years ago
Level: 1, : 1
Hi all, would like to know if there is any difference between にしたら and としたら?Thanks.
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9 years ago



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