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As for A; when it comes to the example A
Shows an extreme example A. Has a negative connotation.
  1. As for A; when it comes to the example A
    Shows an extreme example A. Has a negative connotation.
  2. Shows an extreme situation A
    Followed by a change/realization that (finally) occurs because of A. Words like やっと and ようやく often follow A.
  3. Despite an extreme situation A
    Followed by change/result that has not happened despite A occurring. Words like まだ often follow.
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彼 は 此 処 に い た っ て 自 分 は 無 実 だ と 言 い 出 し た 。 
As for this here, he said that he was innocent.
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ANoun に いたって
 
ANoun に 至る
 
 
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Basically Aになる for extreme situations.
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emmy
Level: 3
Aという極端な例の場合、Bという状態だ

Aには程度が極端な例が来る。
BにはAがどんな状態か(全体のひどさ)を表す文が来る。
Bという状態にあきれた、ひどいという否定的な評価を表す場合に使う。
Bには「～しか・さえ・すら・ない」「～まで」がよく一緒に使われる。
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とくむ
Level: 203
I don't think this example is appropriate. ここに至って means "things have come this far", which is a literal mean of 至る, not the grammatical usage of に至って.

A proper example would be something like

彼は野菜が嫌いで、ピーマンに至って吐き気もするようだ。

He hates vegetables, and when it comes to green peppers he would even feel like throwing up.
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チンピラ
Level: 100
I believe you are referring to the second meaning of this expression "Shows an extreme situation", which comes below this one on the grammar library page.
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マイコー
Level: 327

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Shows an extreme situation A
Followed by a change/realization that (finally) occurs because of A. Words like やっと and ようやく often follow A.
  1. As for A; when it comes to the example A
    Shows an extreme example A. Has a negative connotation.
  2. Shows an extreme situation A
    Followed by a change/realization that (finally) occurs because of A. Words like やっと and ようやく often follow A.
  3. Despite an extreme situation A
    Followed by change/result that has not happened despite A occurring. Words like まだ often follow.
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疲 労 骨 折 為 る に 至 っ て 、 漸 く 練 習 の し 過 ぎ だ と 分 か っ た 。 
When I had a stress fracture, I finally understood that I was practicing too much.
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母 が 泣 く に 至 っ て 、 初 め て 自 分 の 愚 か さ に 気 づ い た 。 
When my mother cried, I recognized my foolishness for the first time.
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に至って
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Something becomes a serious situation Words such as やっと、ようやく、and はじ めて are often used with this pattern.
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まことまじま
Level: 516
事態がAまで進んで、やっとB
Aは普通では考えられない状態
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とくむ
Level: 203

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Despite an extreme situation A
Followed by change/result that has not happened despite A occurring. Words like まだ often follow.
  1. As for A; when it comes to the example A
    Shows an extreme example A. Has a negative connotation.
  2. Shows an extreme situation A
    Followed by a change/realization that (finally) occurs because of A. Words like やっと and ようやく often follow A.
  3. Despite an extreme situation A
    Followed by change/result that has not happened despite A occurring. Words like まだ often follow.
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年 度 末 の 3 月 に 至 っ て も 終 わ り そ う も な い 。 
Even at the end of the fiscal year in March, it looks unlikely that (e.g. work) will be finished.
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1 週 間 の 納 期 の 筈 が 、 一 月 経 つ に 至 っ て も 届 か な い 。 
It was supposed to be delivered in a week, but it hasn't been even after a month.
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に至っても
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mysticfive
Level: 2254
you can also use 至る and 至らず as well - the former having the same general meaning as 至って, the latter meaning something along the lines of 'without reaching such a situation'
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15 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 327
Added the first. Do you think the latter would fit better as a new expression?
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15 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2254
yeah - maybe another usage on the same page? Or something on it's own?
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15 years ago
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htatsuha
Level: 1147
The Kanzen Master grammar book for N1 has separate entries for ~に至って・~に至っても and ~に至っては with separate usage and definition information. Assuming that information is accurate, perhaps this page could be updated to reflect that? The current information matches that given in Kanzen Master for ~に至っては, but it doesn't really explain how to use ~に至って・~に至っても, which is supposedly used for extreme situations and their results, and which can be used with verbs in addition to nouns.
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6 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 327

Did a bit of digging around, this is what I got. Let me know if you are seeing the same:

いたって - used to mark a time or situation when something extreme/drastic happens. N/V precedes it.

いたっては - given on this page, but needs to be noted that it's only used for negative statements.

いたっても - similar to #1, used to mark an extreme time or situation, but it followed with something that hasn't been done/achieved yet (negative phrase).

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6 years ago
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htatsuha
Level: 1147

Sounds about right. This is what Kanzen Master shows:

~に至って・~に至っても: 普通では考えられない状態を表す言葉につく。「~に至って」の後には、事態がそこまで進んでやっとどうなったか、「~に至っても」の後には、進んでもどうならないかを言う文が来る。

~に至っては：全体としてあきれた、ひどいという評価を表す。程度が極端な例につく。後には、その例がどんな状態かを言う文が来る。
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6 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 327

Ok, added them! We're pretty backlogged on getting model sentences added to the ones without examples, but we'll get there at some point.

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6 years ago
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htatsuha
Level: 1147

Thanks!

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6 years ago


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